Red Mosquito

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.

They should address it at some point since it's just a big meatball sitting there, but it can be explained away (i.e., High Sparrow can say that they don't want to get involved in political matters, just cares about souls, etc.). I imagine Cersei is going to bring it up at her trial.

I don't think Cersei is planning on attending her trial, which will be a convenient way to get all her enemies in one place.

Wasn't this sort of implied by her asking her Maester about his little birds, and "if the rumors were true"? I'm assuming she's chasing down Gendry to try to upend the situation in King's Landing.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.

They should address it at some point since it's just a big meatball sitting there, but it can be explained away (i.e., High Sparrow can say that they don't want to get involved in political matters, just cares about souls, etc.). I imagine Cersei is going to bring it up at her trial.

I don't think Cersei is planning on attending her trial, which will be a convenient way to get all her enemies in one place.

Wasn't this sort of implied by her asking her Maester about his little birds, and "if the rumors were true"? I'm assuming she's chasing down Gendry to try to upend the situation in King's Landing.

I'm assuming it means that they've discovered a huge cache of wildfire under the great sept of baelor.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.

They should address it at some point since it's just a big meatball sitting there, but it can be explained away (i.e., High Sparrow can say that they don't want to get involved in political matters, just cares about souls, etc.). I imagine Cersei is going to bring it up at her trial.

I don't think Cersei is planning on attending her trial, which will be a convenient way to get all her enemies in one place.

Wasn't this sort of implied by her asking her Maester about his little birds, and "if the rumors were true"? I'm assuming she's chasing down Gendry to try to upend the situation in King's Landing.

I'm assuming it means that they've discovered a huge cache of wildfire under the great sept of baelor.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

BurtReynolds wrote:If Tommen dies who next in line? Or does everyone give up on the idea of a king and break up in time for the dragons to come?

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

and it's just the next terrible decision by cersei, as it'll no doubt kill people she cares about. considering the riverrun siege is over and characters can move as quickly across the realm as they please, i wonder if jaime will be around in time for the trial at the sept.

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

and it's just the next terrible decision by cersei, as it'll no doubt kill people she cares about. considering the riverrun siege is over and characters can move as quickly across the realm as they please, i wonder if jaime will be around in time for the trial at the sept.

he probably makes it back just in time to see her horrible decision come to fruition.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

and it's just the next terrible decision by cersei, as it'll no doubt kill people she cares about. considering the riverrun siege is over and characters can move as quickly across the realm as they please, i wonder if jaime will be around in time for the trial at the sept.

he probably makes it back just in time to see her horrible decision come to fruition.

Yea, I'd buy this. His speech to Edmure last night about his love for Cersei seemed like a pretty obvious foreshadowing of his eventual downfall. He continue to reject the notion that he's capable of honor, and he does so all in the name of Cersei. She will ultimately be his downfall, one way or another.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

and it's just the next terrible decision by cersei, as it'll no doubt kill people she cares about. considering the riverrun siege is over and characters can move as quickly across the realm as they please, i wonder if jaime will be around in time for the trial at the sept.

he probably makes it back just in time to see her horrible decision come to fruition.

maybe he realizes he has to stab his sword through her back as well to save lives

cutuphalfdead wrote:

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

spike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

bada wrote:Thought they already found the wildfire?

Tyrion had someone make a bunch of wildfire. Maybe he stocked the surplus away?

caches would be leftover from the mad king's plot to "burn them all"

Yeah I'm thinking that was the goal of sending out those kids - to find out where the rest of the surplus was located from the mad king. Tyrion located one cache but supposedly there are numerous other storage spots.

and it's just the next terrible decision by cersei, as it'll no doubt kill people she cares about. considering the riverrun siege is over and characters can move as quickly across the realm as they please, i wonder if jaime will be around in time for the trial at the sept.

he probably makes it back just in time to see her horrible decision come to fruition.

maybe he realizes he has to stab his sword through her back as well to save lives

This would be a great move for him to make in the book, as a sort of completion to his redemption arc. It's a shame they've thrown that away in the show.