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Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 1:54 pm
by VinylGuy
Trag is questioning their integrity?
Yeah he seems to be in 1996
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 1:55 pm
by dprival78
the bigger question of integrity stems from eddie putting gatorade in his wine bottles.
so i guess some wotman fixing shouldn't bother me that much
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 1:56 pm
by oneway23
This integrity argument is baffling.
They've been playing arenas since 1992 and worked really hard to straddle the thin line of being an arena rock band with dignity.
They've taken bands on tour that never would've been given the chance otherwise, kept prices below market average for decades, willingly shed fans in the name of artistic integrity while maintaining arena status, put their money where their mouth is when it comes to carbon neutrality and charitable endeavours...On and on and on...
I'd say their credibility is beyond reproach
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 1:59 pm
by DDWJMUVW
tragabigzanda wrote:Glad to hear that PJ have finally arrived in “the biz.” And after all these years.
It's naive to think things weren't done like this in 1991 as well. You just didn't hear about it.
Reminds me of old curmudgeons who sit around and talk about how "x and y never happened in their day". Uh, yeah it did, we just didn't have social media and instant communication. I really think you're romanticizing the true nature of PJ's DIY culture, and this extends to the writing. As for 10c ticketing, do you think that a massive reduction in # of shows might have something to do with the evolution of their policies? Remember when they would do two 40-50 date runs (ie spring/summer)? That was fun and we all got great 10c tickets. It's never coming back, so I hope we all enjoyed it.
I respect your nostalgia for the way you think things might have been, but I'll gladly welcome Wottman's heavy hand if we get songs like DM versus the garbage in lightning bolt.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 1:59 pm
by VinylGuy
Let’s talk about the song
I’m really impressed with Ed’s vocals. He sounds really good. Ferocious, energized. The guitars tones are great and yes there is a hint of You Are but also Ghost.
I do wish Jeff could be more prominent in the mix.
Also damn that bridge
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:02 pm
by stip
thanks for getting us back on track
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:04 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
VinylGuy wrote:Let’s talk about the song
I’m really impressed with Ed’s vocals. He sounds really good. Ferocious, energized. The guitars tones are great and yes there is a hint of You Are but also Ghost.
I do wish Jeff could be more prominent in the mix.
Also damn that bridge
85 pages for a song that’s been out for a week. Pretty sure it’s all been said already
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:09 pm
by DDWJMUVW
The big C chord in the pre chorus is the pinnacle moment, the zenith if you will (for me).
As it rings and Ed hits "denounce/renounce and deploy" I get binaural feels mixed with the guitar tone and intonation from Rhinosuar. I discovered this during my run yesterday when that song came on.
Will be interesting to see how this track fits between the (supposedly) Petty influence Wreckage and Won't Tell, which I have a suspicion is track 4 from metal door sessions.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:12 pm
by blueviper
I like in this section:
No tolerance for
Intolerance or
No patience left for
Impatience no more
No love lost for
Lost loves
No sorrow for
The unaccountable
How he sings “lost loves”
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:12 pm
by Jorge
B wrote:According to the vinyl, Watt has writing credit on the music.
Oh, that's kind of a bummer. Wonder what the extent of his songwriting was.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:15 pm
by Higgs
Jorge wrote:B wrote:According to the vinyl, Watt has writing credit on the music.
Oh, that's kind of a bummer. Wonder what the extent of his songwriting was.
You arsehole!
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:17 pm
by 96583UP
this band lost all integrity when it kicked out Dave A
everything since has been synthetic
Ed is a fraud
Jeff is gay and in hiding
Stone stopped caring about Pearl Jam shortly after he was forced to sacrifice Dave A
Mike is mentally incapable of retaining information or projecting the future past the 13 seconds in front of him
Matt Cameron is quietly writing excellent music and propping up this farce
Boom needs food medicine and shelter
J Kling is a chinese spy
Wottman is the new BOB
get used to it
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:17 pm
by Jaeti
DDWJMUVW wrote:The big C chord in the pre chorus is the pinnacle moment, the zenith if you will (for me).
*nodding*
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:18 pm
by 96583UP
Wottman is DEFINITELY coming on stage to play 5th guitar on RITFW in the live show too when PJ plays Givenchy promo in-store so don't be shocked when it happens
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:31 pm
by VinylGuy
DDWJMUVW wrote:The big C chord in the pre chorus is the pinnacle moment, the zenith if you will (for me).
As it rings and Ed hits "denounce/renounce and deploy" I get binaural feels mixed with the guitar tone and intonation from Rhinosuar. I discovered this during my run yesterday when that song came on.
Will be interesting to see how this track fits between the (supposedly) Petty influence Wreckage and Won't Tell, which I have a suspicion is track 4 from metal door sessions.
Yeah good post. I kinda feel SG circa King Animal but also a bit of Applebite in the tone guitars.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:37 pm
by dprival78
wreckage
words: wotman
music: wotman/klinghoffer
make checks payable to: vedder/gossard
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:41 pm
by Jaeti
The particular type of Soundgarden-ness in this song is what will probably always keep it at just "pretty good" for me. I like, but never loved, Soundgarden, and the stuff I do love isn't this muscled-up (or muscled-up like Rhinosaur, as was just mentioned).
Fell on Black Days, The Day I Tried to Live, Blow Up the Outside World...those are songs I love.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:50 pm
by stip
Jaeti wrote:The particular type of Soundgarden-ness in this song is what will probably always keep it at just "pretty good" for me. I like, but never loved, Soundgarden, and the stuff I do love isn't this muscled-up (or muscled-up like Rhinosaur, as was just mentioned).
Fell on Black Days, The Day I Tried to Live, Blow Up the Outside World...those are songs I love.
same - i liked soundgarden and get the appeal but they were easily at the bottom of the seattle bands for me. I could put together one killer cd of my favorites but thats about it.
the SG elements are what interest me least about this song.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:51 pm
by DDWJMUVW
dprival78 wrote:wreckage
words: wotman
music: wotman/klinghoffer
make checks payable to: vedder/gossard
belly laughed at this one. well played man.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 2:57 pm
by Val
Song still rocks
(said he timidly)