Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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BurtReynolds wrote:Pendulum lyrics have leaked (McCready):

Sometimes the world looks perfect,
Nothing to rearrange.
Sometimes you just, get a feeling
Like you need some kind of change.
No matter what the odds are this time,
Nothing's gonna stand in my way.
This flame in my heart,
Like a long lost friend
Gives every dark street a light at the end.

Standing tall, on the wings of my dreams.
Rise and fall, on the wings of my dreams.
The rain and thunder
The wind and haze
I'm bound for better days.
It's my life and my dream,
Nothing's going to stop me now.
Really? Those are horrible.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Sirens might be the most punk thing Pearl Jam do in their entire career.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Whew, finally got caught up on this thread.

My take on Sirens:

Can't.Stop.Listening. Love it. But that should be no surprise since Dissident is one of my favorite songs in the catalog, so I dig the 80s/classic rock vibe, as well as "emotional" songs in general.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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BurtReynolds wrote:Pendulum lyrics have leaked (McCready):

Sometimes the world looks perfect,
Nothing to rearrange.
Sometimes you just, get a feeling
Like you need some kind of change.
No matter what the odds are this time,
Nothing's gonna stand in my way.
This flame in my heart,
Like a long lost friend
Gives every dark street a light at the end.

Standing tall, on the wings of my dreams.
Rise and fall, on the wings of my dreams.
The rain and thunder
The wind and haze
I'm bound for better days.
It's my life and my dream,
Nothing's going to stop me now.
:haha:

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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turned2black wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Pendulum lyrics have leaked (McCready):

Sometimes the world looks perfect,
Nothing to rearrange.
Sometimes you just, get a feeling
Like you need some kind of change.
No matter what the odds are this time,
Nothing's gonna stand in my way.
This flame in my heart,
Like a long lost friend
Gives every dark street a light at the end.

Standing tall, on the wings of my dreams.
Rise and fall, on the wings of my dreams.
The rain and thunder
The wind and haze
I'm bound for better days.
It's my life and my dream,
Nothing's going to stop me now.
:haha:

Why is everyone neglecting Who's the Boss?
thats a classic. fuckin' classic.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Pendulum lyrics have leaked (McCready):

Sometimes the world looks perfect,
Nothing to rearrange.
Sometimes you just, get a feeling
Like you need some kind of change.
No matter what the odds are this time,
Nothing's gonna stand in my way.
This flame in my heart,
Like a long lost friend
Gives every dark street a light at the end.

Standing tall, on the wings of my dreams.
Rise and fall, on the wings of my dreams.
The rain and thunder
The wind and haze
I'm bound for better days.
It's my life and my dream,
Nothing's going to stop me now.
Really? Those are horrible.
:lol:

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
Dugg wrote:Well, there is no obvious chorus to sing along to. Which is one of the things I like about it. Only PJ would do a full on 80s power ballad without a chorus. This could also be a grower which is not usually the case for for these types of songs.

This. So much this. This is an 80s power ballad without the one thing that made 80s power ballads so cheesy. A singy-songy chorus. The vocal melody here is probably the most complex of all the songs we've heard from LB so far. That is ironic considering the song is packaged most like a pop song. The lack of an easy to sing chorus/bridge makes this song more of a grower than any of those that came before.

Ed sounds absolutely spotless here. Those of you who think that he sounds bad singing any part of this, well, I just want some of what you're smokin'. This is as peerless a vocal performance (considering the requirements of the song) as he has given in the last 20 years. I'm not speaking of difficulty necessarily, but just execution and doing what the song needs. He is fabulous here. Honestly, I couldn't get into the song until I listened to it loud with headphones one. Now, I am hooked.
I agree with this. This song is classic Pearl Jam, perhaps only in the sense that it doesn't push the balladry so far as to have a horrible chorus. It's a little pared back and more humble than that, as PJ always were.
I still haven't heard this yet, but this description reminds me of Parachutes. Please please please tell me this is even half as good as Parachutes? :luv:
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Hear the BANHAMMER . . . . .

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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bluestate wrote:I still haven't heard this yet, but this description reminds me of Parachutes. Please please please tell me this is even half as good as Parachutes? :luv:

These two songs are not remotely alike. Parachutes is kind of sweet and subtle. Sirens screams for attention--they obviously aren't trying to sneak this one on the record.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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bluestate wrote:
harmless wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
Dugg wrote:Well, there is no obvious chorus to sing along to. Which is one of the things I like about it. Only PJ would do a full on 80s power ballad without a chorus. This could also be a grower which is not usually the case for for these types of songs.

This. So much this. This is an 80s power ballad without the one thing that made 80s power ballads so cheesy. A singy-songy chorus. The vocal melody here is probably the most complex of all the songs we've heard from LB so far. That is ironic considering the song is packaged most like a pop song. The lack of an easy to sing chorus/bridge makes this song more of a grower than any of those that came before.

Ed sounds absolutely spotless here. Those of you who think that he sounds bad singing any part of this, well, I just want some of what you're smokin'. This is as peerless a vocal performance (considering the requirements of the song) as he has given in the last 20 years. I'm not speaking of difficulty necessarily, but just execution and doing what the song needs. He is fabulous here. Honestly, I couldn't get into the song until I listened to it loud with headphones one. Now, I am hooked.
I agree with this. This song is classic Pearl Jam, perhaps only in the sense that it doesn't push the balladry so far as to have a horrible chorus. It's a little pared back and more humble than that, as PJ always were.
I still haven't heard this yet, but this description reminds me of Parachutes. Please please please tell me this is even half as good as Parachutes? :luv:
It's not comparable to Parachutes. I like Parachutes but I don't love it. I love this song; I can't remember them writing a rock ballad as good as this one. FACT. But it's excessive and you have to be OK with that from the start.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Iowaska_Experience wrote:Hear the BANHAMMER . . . . .

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My apologies......I was not aware.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Heathen wrote:
harmless wrote:
AllNiteThing wrote:Every new song I hear from this album I so far love. The difference between them and the last two albums though is that I feel there is much more variety and a little more depth to the music/melodies/lyrics than we've gotten recently.

One of the big reasons I love this band is the variety of sounds and styles they've explored over the years, there really is so much to choose from depending on your mood and feeling at the time, more so than most other bands I've been into. This album really takes that another step, with the blues-boogies style of LTRP punk/metal of MYM and now 80's power ballad style of Sirens. I'm really excited to hear where they go with Pendulum and Yellow Moon, after hearing how 'odd' they are.

I understand people not getting or not liking Sirens for it not sounding like classic Pearl Jam, but if you see how they have explored different styles, it's not unexpected. We know Mike is a HUGE fan of classic and 80's rock, so I'm surprised we haven't gotten a song like this sooner. We should be happy that they're not afraid to try something out of the norm for them.

Most of us have gone through an 80's phase or maybe still appreciate the cheese-rock from that era, and I for one am happy they've tried, and succeeded with a song in that style.
Same here.

What I don't quite understand is when people acknowledge this is done well, but still can't accept it because it's not in one of their favourite previous Pearl Jam styles. I mean, we have 7 classic albums from this band, which for me is more than enough. The last two albums weren't anything special. I'm happy enough to just see where they go from here but still they're held to impossible standards. We can love the old stuff and still enjoy this in its own right.

But hey, this post has been written a thousand times.

I feel like Jorge is probably bleeding to death over a laptop in some motel after hearing this song.
Is there any music out there you just can't stand? If so, does it make it any better whether it's "done well" or not?

I, for the most part, can't stand country music. However, if it's 'done well', as in Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson or Waylon Jennings, then yes I can appreciate it.
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Does anyone like Sirens?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Mirella wrote:
Waverider wrote:Wow........maybe it's cause I'm getting older........maybe cause I lost my Mother not long ago..........maybe it's alot of things.......my perceptions on so many things have changed......but fuck if I don't love this. Yes it's not what they normally would have done, but hell, the fact that they did this, and did it well.....it's great. I'd take a flaming from this entire board, and still be very comfortable with this song.
I lost my mother back in 1989, so she never knew Pearl Jam and she was not there during my entire 'fandom'... But I know what you mean.

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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jforte20 wrote:Does anyone like Sirens?
I do.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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AllNiteThing wrote:
Heathen wrote:
harmless wrote:
AllNiteThing wrote:Every new song I hear from this album I so far love. The difference between them and the last two albums though is that I feel there is much more variety and a little more depth to the music/melodies/lyrics than we've gotten recently.

One of the big reasons I love this band is the variety of sounds and styles they've explored over the years, there really is so much to choose from depending on your mood and feeling at the time, more so than most other bands I've been into. This album really takes that another step, with the blues-boogies style of LTRP punk/metal of MYM and now 80's power ballad style of Sirens. I'm really excited to hear where they go with Pendulum and Yellow Moon, after hearing how 'odd' they are.

I understand people not getting or not liking Sirens for it not sounding like classic Pearl Jam, but if you see how they have explored different styles, it's not unexpected. We know Mike is a HUGE fan of classic and 80's rock, so I'm surprised we haven't gotten a song like this sooner. We should be happy that they're not afraid to try something out of the norm for them.

Most of us have gone through an 80's phase or maybe still appreciate the cheese-rock from that era, and I for one am happy they've tried, and succeeded with a song in that style.
Same here.

What I don't quite understand is when people acknowledge this is done well, but still can't accept it because it's not in one of their favourite previous Pearl Jam styles. I mean, we have 7 classic albums from this band, which for me is more than enough. The last two albums weren't anything special. I'm happy enough to just see where they go from here but still they're held to impossible standards. We can love the old stuff and still enjoy this in its own right.

But hey, this post has been written a thousand times.

I feel like Jorge is probably bleeding to death over a laptop in some motel after hearing this song.
Is there any music out there you just can't stand? If so, does it make it any better whether it's "done well" or not?

I, for the most part, can't stand country music. However, if it's 'done well', as in Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson or Waylon Jennings, then yes I can appreciate it.
Very well put, and I totally agree.

I will like any genre of music if I appreciate and enjoy what I'm hearing.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I hope they sandwich it right between State of Love and Trust and Blood in the setlist
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