I don't care about rockers it's just that seemingly every song is the same tempo, the same production, the same vocal range, the same tone. There's no dynamic anymore.
It sounds like the dressners have full control over everything and it's a cut and paste song and spills over into all their other collabs as well.
Same same same
Re: The National
Posted: Thu September 21, 2023 4:02 pm
by oasisfan35
Strat wrote:I don't care about rockers it's just that seemingly every song is the same tempo, the same production, the same vocal range, the same tone. There's no dynamic anymore.
It sounds like the dressners have full control over everything and it's a cut and paste song and spills over into all their other collabs as well.
Same same same
I haven't listened to either of the Dessner's other efforts but don't find this to be the case, thankfully.
Re: The National
Posted: Thu September 21, 2023 4:54 pm
by Chris_H_2
between this thread and the wilco thread, i think strat needs a hug
Re: The National
Posted: Thu September 21, 2023 5:09 pm
by Strat
I think all you sad depressed dads need hugs!
Re: The National
Posted: Thu September 21, 2023 5:09 pm
by tree_
Strat wrote:I don't care about rockers it's just that seemingly every song is the same tempo, the same production, the same vocal range, the same tone. There's no dynamic anymore.
It sounds like the dressners have full control over everything and it's a cut and paste song and spills over into all their other collabs as well.
Same same same
Yeah this is my problem with them lately too. They're OK for a few songs but then man don't I gotta get my teeth into something spicier. But I'd argue they've almost always been like this. Just gotta be in the right mood for it. I really enjoyed them live because of how loud the drums were. Rumbled through your feet. Probably more of a venue thing, though. Big fan of the drummer.
Re: The National
Posted: Fri September 22, 2023 12:51 am
by Kalevi
tree_ wrote:
Strat wrote:I don't care about rockers it's just that seemingly every song is the same tempo, the same production, the same vocal range, the same tone. There's no dynamic anymore.
It sounds like the dressners have full control over everything and it's a cut and paste song and spills over into all their other collabs as well.
Same same same
Yeah this is my problem with them lately too. They're OK for a few songs but then man don't I gotta get my teeth into something spicier. But I'd argue they've almost always been like this. Just gotta be in the right mood for it. I really enjoyed them live because of how loud the drums were. Rumbled through your feet. Probably more of a venue thing, though. Big fan of the drummer.
I love their drummer.
Re: The National
Posted: Fri September 22, 2023 1:50 am
by Higgs
Yeah, these guys are doing a tour through my city in March next year alongside Fleet Foxes. I'm yawning just thinking about it.
Shame as I enjoyed their earlier stuff but my interest in them has hit rock bottom. And Fleet Foxes are just terrible.
Re: The National
Posted: Tue September 26, 2023 10:28 pm
by oasisfan35
Have a National playlist on random currently in the house, About Today from the studio was followed by the live version released on The Virginia EP. Perhaps the compass read really went awry when they attempted to capture that live sound within a fresh studio endeavor, can't catch lightning in a bottle.
Just a passing observation. Maybe they will break out Warm Singing Whores while on tour abroad.
Re: The National
Posted: Wed October 04, 2023 11:04 pm
by Chris_H_2
Holy shit!
Re: The National
Posted: Wed October 04, 2023 11:33 pm
by Simple Torture
Amazing.
The next volume of Cherry Tree is supposed to ship this month, it’d be great if it was a compilation of rare tracks from the past year or so.
Re: The National
Posted: Fri October 06, 2023 1:02 am
by ridleybradout
Strat wrote:I think all you sad depressed dads need hugs!
My wife just got me this for my birthday
Re: The National
Posted: Fri October 06, 2023 1:07 am
by ridleybradout
digster wrote:I do think the one thing missing from their catalog is a definitive, Live on Two Legs-ish live document; they've had these offshoots, like the Juicy Sonic Magic thing or a live recording of Boxer, but something like a compilation pulling great performances together would be cool, and I think would be an eye-opener to a lot of people. I've been to a few National shows with people going for the first time, and they're always really surprised by how intense the shows and performances are, compared to the subtler studio stuff.
Try this on
ridleybradout wrote:And here it is
Big thanks to WCT for mastering this to sound as close to an official release as possible
The National
Live 2007-2017
Compilation and artwork by ridleybradout
Mastered by wendy carlos's twin
February 2018
FAN-MADE PROJECT - NOT FOR SALE
TRACKLIST:
01 Don't Swallow The Cap (Berlin 2013-11-04)
02 Mistaken for Strangers (London 2010-07-10)
03 The System Only Dreams In Total Darkness (Paris 2017-06-22)
04 Bloodbuzz Ohio (Austin 2014-04-23)
05 Guilty Party (Paris 2017-06-22)
06 Sea Of Love (Berlin 2014-06-05)
07 Afraid of Everyone (London 2010-07-10)
08 Brainy (Copenhagen 2013-11-02)
09 Conversation 16 (London 2010-07-10)
10 Wasp Nest (Toronto 2014-04-10)
11 Turtleneck (Paris 2017-06-22)
12 Slipped (Austin 2014-04-23)
13 England (Brooklyn 2010-05-15)
14 Fake Empire (Brussels 2007-11-12)
15 Exile Vilify (Warsaw 2014-06-09)
16 About Today (Brussels 2007-11-12)
17 Terrible Love (Cologne 2014-06-11)
Tracks 1,5,11,12,17 from 'Live' Musikexpress Bonus CD
Tracks 2,7,9 from 'iTunes Festival: London 2010' (m4a source)
Track 3 from 'Pitchfork Live: Centquatre in Paris' on Pitchfork Youtube channel (AAC source)
Tracks 4,6,8,10,15 from 'Sleep Well Beast' Japanese Bonus CD
Track 13 from 'High Violet' Expanded Edition Bonus CD
Tracks 14,16 from The Virginia EP CD
digster wrote:I do think the one thing missing from their catalog is a definitive, Live on Two Legs-ish live document; they've had these offshoots, like the Juicy Sonic Magic thing or a live recording of Boxer, but something like a compilation pulling great performances together would be cool, and I think would be an eye-opener to a lot of people. I've been to a few National shows with people going for the first time, and they're always really surprised by how intense the shows and performances are, compared to the subtler studio stuff.
Try this on
ridleybradout wrote:And here it is
Big thanks to WCT for mastering this to sound as close to an official release as possible
The National
Live 2007-2017
Compilation and artwork by ridleybradout
Mastered by wendy carlos's twin
February 2018
FAN-MADE PROJECT - NOT FOR SALE
TRACKLIST:
01 Don't Swallow The Cap (Berlin 2013-11-04)
02 Mistaken for Strangers (London 2010-07-10)
03 The System Only Dreams In Total Darkness (Paris 2017-06-22)
04 Bloodbuzz Ohio (Austin 2014-04-23)
05 Guilty Party (Paris 2017-06-22)
06 Sea Of Love (Berlin 2014-06-05)
07 Afraid of Everyone (London 2010-07-10)
08 Brainy (Copenhagen 2013-11-02)
09 Conversation 16 (London 2010-07-10)
10 Wasp Nest (Toronto 2014-04-10)
11 Turtleneck (Paris 2017-06-22)
12 Slipped (Austin 2014-04-23)
13 England (Brooklyn 2010-05-15)
14 Fake Empire (Brussels 2007-11-12)
15 Exile Vilify (Warsaw 2014-06-09)
16 About Today (Brussels 2007-11-12)
17 Terrible Love (Cologne 2014-06-11)
Tracks 1,5,11,12,17 from 'Live' Musikexpress Bonus CD
Tracks 2,7,9 from 'iTunes Festival: London 2010' (m4a source)
Track 3 from 'Pitchfork Live: Centquatre in Paris' on Pitchfork Youtube channel (AAC source)
Tracks 4,6,8,10,15 from 'Sleep Well Beast' Japanese Bonus CD
Track 13 from 'High Violet' Expanded Edition Bonus CD
Tracks 14,16 from The Virginia EP CD
Also listened to the 2023-08-03 show from New Haven yesterday. I'm glad the shows themselves have scaled-back from the rawk show nature that seemed to start in '18.
Re: The National
Posted: Mon October 09, 2023 3:01 pm
by oasisfan35
Welp...
Couple songs in to 2023-09-30 and Matt's pushing his voice much too far already. It's like he's trying to fill the entire arena, like reaching every individual at an open air event... it really kills the show for me
Re: The National
Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 1:28 pm
by VinylGuy
From the live videos i saw the guy´s voice is kinda done.
Re: The National
Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 2:06 pm
by Chris_H_2
this pretty much is the perfect setlist. i don't see how they ever top this:
Sea of Love
Eucalyptus
Deep End (Paul's in Pieces)
I Should Live in Salt
Demons
Don't Swallow the Cap
Afraid of Everyone
Slow Show
The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness
Guilty Party
Wasp Nest
Humiliation
Murder Me Rachael
Guest Room
Slipping Husband
Available
Start a War
Grease in Your Hair
Turn Off the House
Smoke Detector
Santa Clara
Rylan
Hornets
Carin at the Liquor Store
Tour Manager
Graceless
About Today
Encore:
Daughters of the Soho Riots
Cherry Tree
Terrible Love
Send for Me
Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks
Re: The National
Posted: Tue October 10, 2023 2:10 pm
by dad
Chris_H_2 wrote:this pretty much is the perfect setlist. i don't see how they ever top this:
Sea of Love
Eucalyptus
Deep End (Paul's in Pieces)
I Should Live in Salt
Demons
Don't Swallow the Cap
Afraid of Everyone
Slow Show
The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness
Guilty Party
Wasp Nest
Humiliation
Murder Me Rachael
Guest Room
Slipping Husband
Available
Start a War
Grease in Your Hair
Turn Off the House
Smoke Detector Santa Clara
Rylan
Hornets
Carin at the Liquor Store
Tour Manager
Graceless
About Today
Encore:
Daughters of the Soho Riots
Cherry Tree
Terrible Love
Send for Me
Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks
