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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 5:45 pm
by Strat
dimejinky99 wrote:Did you guys see Jim Jeffries telling Piers Morgan to Fuck off on Bill Maher?
It's gold
'Hitler didn't kill all the Jews on day one. He worked up to it!'
Spenno is Piers Morgan
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 6:41 pm
by McParadigm
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 6:44 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:37 pm
by Strat
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:39 pm
by Norah
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:41 pm
by The Argonaut
this is really funny and spooky
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:51 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:
"children"
Go fuck yourself.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:51 pm
by LoathedVermin72
that's like a found footage horror movie meets Tim and Eric
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 7:52 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
that's like a found footage horror movie meets Tim and Eric
lol.
check it out
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
They aren't paid, but you're kidding yourself if you think middle America is suddenly turning on getting rid of Obamacare. These are organized protests of democrats, not some groundswell of bipartisan anger.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:39 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
They aren't paid, but you're kidding yourself if you think middle America is suddenly turning on getting rid of Obamacare. These are organized protests of democrats, not some groundswell of bipartisan anger.
Even Fox News polls now have fewer than 30% of respondents wanting to do away with it completely. Most significantly, it is one of a number of topics on which independent voters have traditionally sided with Republicans, but where Gallup polling shows that a significant amount of the polling shifts have occurred among that group.
Whatever the cause or eventual effect, there has absolutely been a measurable decrease in support for the dismantling of the ACA among Republican voters, and a broad increase in favorability for the ACA among independents since the election. Which is exactly why I think the new tactic will be to use other measures to undermine its ability to succeed (i.e. the pulling of PSAs) and then turn around to say "see, we told you it would never work."
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:45 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
They aren't paid, but you're kidding yourself if you think middle America is suddenly turning on getting rid of Obamacare. These are organized protests of democrats, not some groundswell of bipartisan anger.
Even Fox News polls now have fewer than 30% of respondents wanting to do away with it completely. Most significantly, it is one of a number of topics on which independent voters have traditionally sided with Republicans, but where Gallup polling shows that a significant amount of the polling shifts have occurred among that group.
Whatever the cause or eventual effect, there has absolutely been a measurable decrease in support for the dismantling of the ACA among Republican voters, and a broad increase in favorability for the ACA among independents since the election. Which is exactly why I think the new tactic will be to use other measures to undermine its ability to succeed (i.e. the pulling of PSAs) and then turn around to say "see, we told you it would never work."
Maybe there's a shift, but random people aren't suddenly becoming political enough to show up at town halls to shout down republicans. It's an organized effort from democrats and various anti-trump groups.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:47 pm
by washing machine
I'm fearful of how quickly this administration is moving. Not really because of the policy being enacted and the various controversies surrounding the Trump family and the cabinet, though that in and of itself is all frightening, but because as McP noted several posts ago, it's hard for everyone to keep up.
I'm afraid that the legitimate Resist movement will either run out of steam too quickly or that the myriad of protests will lose all meaning after week 6 or 7.
No doubt this is all White House strategy, but it needs to be confronted. Where do you guys see the relationship the electorate has with this administration a year from now or even directly after the first 100 days?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:51 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:McParadigm wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
They aren't paid, but you're kidding yourself if you think middle America is suddenly turning on getting rid of Obamacare. These are organized protests of democrats, not some groundswell of bipartisan anger.
Even Fox News polls now have fewer than 30% of respondents wanting to do away with it completely. Most significantly, it is one of a number of topics on which independent voters have traditionally sided with Republicans, but where Gallup polling shows that a significant amount of the polling shifts have occurred among that group.
Whatever the cause or eventual effect, there has absolutely been a measurable decrease in support for the dismantling of the ACA among Republican voters, and a broad increase in favorability for the ACA among independents since the election. Which is exactly why I think the new tactic will be to use other measures to undermine its ability to succeed (i.e. the pulling of PSAs) and then turn around to say "see, we told you it would never work."
Maybe there's a shift, but random people aren't suddenly becoming political enough to show up at town halls to shout down republicans. It's an organized effort from democrats or various anti-trump groups.
Mostly, yes. But even that should be alarming to Republicans...as should all these demonstrations. Lack of fundraising and lack of motivating message were exactly the problems non-presidential candidate democrats faced the last few cycles. Historically, when they managed to have both they tend to win quite a lot of seats.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:55 pm
by McParadigm
washing machine wrote:I'm fearful of how quickly this administration is moving. Not really because of the policy being enacted and the various controversies surrounding the Trump family and the cabinet, though that in and of itself is all frightening, but because as McP noted several posts ago, it's hard for everyone to keep up.
I'm afraid that the legitimate Resist movement will either run out of steam too quickly or that the myriad of protests will lose all meaning after week 6 or 7.
No doubt this is all White House strategy, but it needs to be confronted. Where do you guys see the relationship the electorate has with this administration a year from now or even directly after the first 100 days?
That, and the smokescreen the national story is providing to state governments. A lot is going on that is getting insufficient press. South Dakota's ethics law mess is a great example of this, but also:
While Republicans in Washington appear flummoxed by the complexities of one-party rule, struggling with issues from repealing the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare, to paying for President Trump’s promised wall on the Mexican border, rising party leaders in the states seem far more at ease and assertive. Republicans have top-to-bottom control in 25 states now, holding both the governorship and the entire legislature, and Republican lawmakers are acting with lightning speed to enact longstanding conservative priorities.
In states from New England to the Midwest and across the South, conservative lawmakers have introduced or enacted legislation to erode union powers and abortion rights, loosen gun regulations, expand school-choice programs and slash taxes and spending.
Acting fastest at the moment, though, are four states where Republicans won total control of the government only in November. In addition to Kentucky, Missouri and New Hampshire became one-party states with the election of Republican governors, and Republicans in Iowa snatched away the State Senate, where Democrats had held their last grip on power.
In all four states, Republicans are racing to strip back the influence of labor unions, a key Democratic constituency.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 8:58 pm
by washing machine
That's one frightening Star Wars crawl.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 9:49 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:Spenno is Piers Morgan
What the hell, Strat.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 9:50 pm
by Norah
lol
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 11:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun February 12, 2017 3:25 am
by McParadigm
Christ. Why default to a valueless lie?