Red Mosquito

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don’t want to root for anyone

I can appreciate this, seriously; it's just not how I watch movies...

Tangentially related, I'm reading Jorge's great book rec while simultaneously reading the Cinematic Storytelling book I've been posting about. Jorge's book talks about De Palma's detached camera work, like he's chronicling the suffering of his characters without engaging emotionally. It's interesting, and reading those two books side-by-side is exploding my understanding of film making, and how the camera may/may not heighten the emotional resonance of the character or story...

So, if I'm reading your comment right, does that mean you prefer film making that takes a more objective view of the story?

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:i've only seen his "establishment approved" flicks: Carrie, Casualties of War, Untouchables, and Mission to Mars. Despite all the colors and fireworks, they do strike me as cold.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don’t want to root for anyone

I can appreciate this, seriously; it's just not how I watch movies...

Tangentially related, I'm reading Jorge's great book rec while simultaneously reading the Cinematic Storytelling book I've been posting about. Jorge's book talks about De Palma's detached camera work, like he's chronicling the suffering of his characters without engaging emotionally. It's interesting, and reading those two books side-by-side is exploding my understanding of film making, and how the camera may/may not heighten the emotional resonance of the character or story...

So, if I'm reading your comment right, does that mean you prefer film making that takes a more objective view of the story?

Oh my god that theory is so wrong. De Palma is an intensely emotional director. Oh my god no no no