Dark Matter (song)

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Watt also took a writing credit on all of Earthling, and a cursory look at wiki shows that he takes co-writing credits with every act he works with. He started in pop, and producers taking a co-writing credit is a lot more commonplace in that genre.

Ironically, the only time that didn't seem to happen (for the most part) was the Stones.
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writing credits prob mondo important in the streaming era
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Jaeti wrote:The particular type of Soundgarden-ness in this song is what will probably always keep it at just "pretty good" for me. I like, but never loved, Soundgarden, and the stuff I do love isn't this muscled-up (or muscled-up like Rhinosaur, as was just mentioned).

Fell on Black Days, The Day I Tried to Live, Blow Up the Outside World...those are songs I love.
Those are also my favorite types of Soundgarden songs but I kind of equally love ‘muscled up’ SG because it doesn’t sound as bright or ‘sharp’ around the edges as Dark Matter. Rhinosaur fits that description for me, and Never the Machine Forever is probably my 2nd favorite song after Pretty Noose on my favorite SG album. It’s punk SG that is my least favorite type of SG
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stip wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
stip wrote:
Jaeti wrote:The particular type of Soundgarden-ness in this song is what will probably always keep it at just "pretty good" for me. I like, but never loved, Soundgarden, and the stuff I do love isn't this muscled-up (or muscled-up like Rhinosaur, as was just mentioned).

Fell on Black Days, The Day I Tried to Live, Blow Up the Outside World...those are songs I love.
same - i liked soundgarden and get the appeal but they were easily at the bottom of the seattle bands for me. I could put together one killer cd of my favorites but thats about it.

the SG elements are what interest me least about this song.
Pff SG might be the best of all of them

1991-1996

Pearl Jam
Screaming Trees
Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots


(assuming I can count the pumpkins and stp)
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Smashing Pumpkins
Alice In Chains

Never really cared for STP save for a couple of songs.

I somehow missed Screaming Trees growing up. But I’ll rectify that in my middle age thanks to my lifelong affinity for 90s rock.
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3.73 today

+0.20

Pros
Mike’s solo intro wail / scream sound is killer and a potential watch item for lasting greatness

Cons
The Bridge is crap and a momentum-killer and kind of typifies what is wrong with modern PJ. But it is short and then we move back on to business
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Fattie_Vedder wrote:
stip wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
stip wrote:
Jaeti wrote:The particular type of Soundgarden-ness in this song is what will probably always keep it at just "pretty good" for me. I like, but never loved, Soundgarden, and the stuff I do love isn't this muscled-up (or muscled-up like Rhinosaur, as was just mentioned).

Fell on Black Days, The Day I Tried to Live, Blow Up the Outside World...those are songs I love.
same - i liked soundgarden and get the appeal but they were easily at the bottom of the seattle bands for me. I could put together one killer cd of my favorites but thats about it.

the SG elements are what interest me least about this song.
Pff SG might be the best of all of them




1991-1996

Pearl Jam
Screaming Trees
Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots


(assuming I can count the pumpkins and stp)
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Smashing Pumpkins
Alice In Chains

Never really cared for STP save for a couple of songs.

I somehow missed Screaming Trees growing up. But I’ll rectify that in my middle age thanks to my lifelong affinity for 90s rock.

For me it’s

PJ
SG
AIC


Everyone else is so far below i don’t bother.

That said, if MLB were considered grunge, they’d be right there with SG.

Would have been interesting to see where Stone and Jeff ended up had Ed not received the tape…..
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Ms Harmless wrote:Steps
Atomic Kitten
All Saints
Spice Girls
All Saints stomp this bracket. Not even close.
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I totally forgot Nirvana. Woooops.

PJ
SG
SP
Nirvana
AIC

And now for something completely different, I was also really into solo female contemporary, rock, and pop artists:

Tori Amos
Alanís Morissette
Madonna
Paula Cole
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Skunk Anansie is a band. The singer goes by the name Skin.

If that was the joke then I apologize.
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If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
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I thought the riff and the drumming were basic when it first came out
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Ms Harmless wrote:I thought the riff and the drumming were basic when it first came out
Confession: it took me a while to love that one. I do have it as a 5 now because it meets my criteria of "PJ at their absolute best" but that is probably partially colored by hearing it live a number of times and absolutely loving the crap out of it that way.
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The downfall of this song is going to be how too fast the play it live.

It won’t be Lukin fast but it might be even flow or given to fly too fast.
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