Song of the Moment: Sirens

[Heathen]

Ed should just go the hip-hop route and write songs about how it's great to have bitches and be rich and all that stuff

[harmless]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

[Heathen]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

[harmless]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

[Tj]

Heathen's posts suck .

[Heathen]

My middle period is where it's at

[Tj]

Heathen's posts suck .

His post last night was bull shit.

[harmless]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

[stupidmop]

well you're right in that I certainly don't doubt its authenticity. I don't think this sounds like a cash grab.

I dont think its a cash grab so much as a fan grab lol. And I understand why, if this starts getting as much as a reaction as black or whatever does during a show, its gonna feel pretty great for the band. What band doesnt want a crowd to be as excited for thier new music as they are for the old stuff? And I dont really begrudge the band for wanting that, I just wish it wasnt this song or this kinda song.

And maybe if im honest I wish they were all super kewl and didnt give two fucks about the crowd, but thats unrealistic. It was easier to talk about shunning the crowd or challenging the audience when no matter what you did the crowd was gonna be full of people in thier 20s or thereabouts losing thier shit, crowd surfing, itching to get a scrap of eds tshirt.

But shit write some weird shit and just dont play it live in an arena or something guys, jeez.

[Tj]

I think it's a fantastic song. I get the impression that it is about his daughter though - not necessarily a love song about his wife.

It's not my plan to send you in the arms of another man

Yeah, that'd be a bit weird if so. Probably not, then.

It is still plausible that it's about his daughters. A father is THE man in his daughter's life. It is a relationship that is, of course, different than the one with his wife but there are similarities when it comes to letting go of the person when they are leaving. A daughter leaving home to marry (or whatever reason) is just as dramatic as a wife leaving. I can see how someone would interpret the song as Eddie leaving (by his death) his daughters into the arms of another man to keep them safe.

no its not...thats just creepy

It's creepy that you think it's creepy that a father could have that much love for his daughters. I hope you have sons....or better yet, just cattle

Do you have daughters? One of your biggest worries if you die is shit she's gonna find a man to fill the void? Or to keep them safe cause they can't fend for themselves? And what kind of boyfriend is this that he's filling the position of both boyfriend and father? I'll tell you what, a creepy one.

Not to mention I think his kids are well kids, as in fairly young.

The oooonly way that line could make sense in context with his kids was if it was about him being worried about his wife leaving him marrying another dude and that guy becoming a father to his kids or something. But that would be weirdly possessive and a strange way to word it also. Either that or ed is a creepy asshole.

Is it really that hard to believe that Ed could be a pedophile? After what happened to him in Alive there's nothing surprising about it.

This post above is a pile of shit. I have never been angry over a post,but this is shit who fuck are you Heathen? Who the hell are to say that crap, what a asshole.

This is his bull shit last night. What a dirt bag

[stip]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

no there's not. There's good reasons to have lost interest, perhaps. Can't argue that. But they're still a very talented band doing what they choose to do quite well.

[Heathen]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

no there's not. There's good reasons to have lost interest, perhaps. Can't argue that. But they're still a very talented band doing what they choose to do quite well.

As far as I'm concerned "suck" is never more than a shortcut for "I don't like", just like "great" is shortcut for "I like".

[harmless]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

no there's not. There's good reasons to have lost interest, perhaps. Can't argue that. But they're still a very talented band doing what they choose to do quite well.

That's what I meant. People are jumping off the moving train for good reason, and I don't take that away from them. It would just be nice to be left alone to consider the new material with others who are thinking it through.

[Birds in Hell]

I think it's a fantastic song. I get the impression that it is about his daughter though - not necessarily a love song about his wife.

It's not my plan to send you in the arms of another man

Yeah, that'd be a bit weird if so. Probably not, then.

It is still plausible that it's about his daughters. A father is THE man in his daughter's life. It is a relationship that is, of course, different than the one with his wife but there are similarities when it comes to letting go of the person when they are leaving. A daughter leaving home to marry (or whatever reason) is just as dramatic as a wife leaving. I can see how someone would interpret the song as Eddie leaving (by his death) his daughters into the arms of another man to keep them safe.

no its not...thats just creepy

It's creepy that you think it's creepy that a father could have that much love for his daughters. I hope you have sons....or better yet, just cattle

Do you have daughters? One of your biggest worries if you die is shit she's gonna find a man to fill the void? Or to keep them safe cause they can't fend for themselves? And what kind of boyfriend is this that he's filling the position of both boyfriend and father? I'll tell you what, a creepy one.

Not to mention I think his kids are well kids, as in fairly young.

The oooonly way that line could make sense in context with his kids was if it was about him being worried about his wife leaving him marrying another dude and that guy becoming a father to his kids or something. But that would be weirdly possessive and a strange way to word it also. Either that or ed is a creepy asshole.

Is it really that hard to believe that Ed could be a pedophile? After what happened to him in Alive there's nothing surprising about it.

This post above is a pile of shit. I have never been angry over a post,but this is shit who fuck are you Heathen? Who the hell are to say that crap, what a asshole.

This is his bull shit last night. What a dirt bag

[stip]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

no there's not. There's good reasons to have lost interest, perhaps. Can't argue that. But they're still a very talented band doing what they choose to do quite well.

As far as I'm concerned "suck" is never more than a shortcut for "I don't like", just like "great" is shortcut for "I like".

welp, can't argue with that.

[harmless]

welp

[stip]

Do you think you've gone the right route, Heathen? Posting on PJ message boards when you think they suck?

They suck now

Well, sure.

untrue

I wasn't agreeing, just saying "Understood." I'm just tired of fighting it out. There are good reasons to think they suck by now. There are also good reasons to think they don't, but it all has to do with taste.

no there's not. There's good reasons to have lost interest, perhaps. Can't argue that. But they're still a very talented band doing what they choose to do quite well.

That's what I meant. People are jumping off the moving train for good reason, and I don't take that away from them. It would just be nice to be left alone to consider the new material with others who are thinking it through.

I like hearing from people who aren't into something. I like the perspective and the way it challenges me (not implying that you don't, Harmless). But it's true that this isn't the same thing as just posting 'this sucks' ad nauseam.

[stip]

welp

i picked that up from chud, I think. It's a great word.

[Jorge]

welp

i picked that up from chud, I think. It's a great word.

Big Gulps, huh? Alright. Welp! See you later!