Red Mosquito

It almost sounds like someone doesn't like the bruins.

numbers wrote:It almost sounds like someone doesn't like the bruins.

I can't explain, let alone defend, Thornton. He obviously crossed the line, but I have to imagine things would have played out differently if the refs had called the penguins on their dirty plays earlier and orpik had done the proper thing and dropped the gloves.

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:It almost sounds like someone doesn't like the bruins.

I can't explain, let alone defend, Thornton. He obviously crossed the line, but I have to imagine things would have played out differently if the refs had called the penguins on their dirty plays earlier and orpik had done the proper thing and dropped the gloves.

That's pretty rich given you always make excuses for Lucic by saying he doesn't need to fight the other team's goon because he's too valuable.

1. Orpik shouldn't need to drop the gloves, at worst it was a 2 min penalty for interference...this whole "you gotta drop the gloves for any kind of hit" is crap

2. Completely out of character for Thornton, but it's still inexcusable...

3. James Neal is a pretty dirty player, he knew exactly what he was doing

4. 7 for Thornton, 5 for Neal, nothing for Orpik

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:

Peeps wrote:it was a clean hit, nothing dirty. if your team did that to crosby youd be high-fiving each other all night.

except the Bruins player would have fought after.

Oh yeah, the Bruins and their toughness. Shawn Thornton just came up from behind Orpik, slew footed him to drop him to the ice, then punched him in the face when he was laying defenseless on his back.

But yeah, let's talk about the vaunted Bruins toughness.

This isn't an error in judgment or a miscalculation or a heat of the moment mistake. This is Shawn Thornton being a gutless piece of shit.

I'd kinda say that's exactly what it was...that doesn't excuse it but that's pretty much what it was

In a world where people defend Shawn Thornton...

Obviously he went way over the line, but the guys history is nothing but honorable.

who's got a video of this? also, i love shawn thornton.

warehouse wrote:who's got a video of this? also, i love shawn thornton.

i hate boston's announcers, but the guy was right. if orpik "manned up" and fought thornton this wouldnt have happened.

who was dirtier here, thornton or james neal?

MattA75 wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:

Peeps wrote:it was a clean hit, nothing dirty. if your team did that to crosby youd be high-fiving each other all night.

except the Bruins player would have fought after.

Oh yeah, the Bruins and their toughness. Shawn Thornton just came up from behind Orpik, slew footed him to drop him to the ice, then punched him in the face when he was laying defenseless on his back.

But yeah, let's talk about the vaunted Bruins toughness.

This isn't an error in judgment or a miscalculation or a heat of the moment mistake. This is Shawn Thornton being a gutless piece of shit.

I'd kinda say that's exactly what it was...that doesn't excuse it but that's pretty much what it was

I don't see it that way because it played out so slowly. It's not like Thornton just dropped him with a punch. He skated over fairly slowly and took him down, then dropped down and punched him. He had plenty of time to not be an idiot. This strikes me as Domi on Neidermayer level stupid.

numbers wrote:It almost sounds like someone doesn't like the bruins.

I don't mind the Bruins at all. I don't like Thornton, but I don't mind the team. I just think the whole idea that Orpik is to blame for not fighting Thornton is crap, especially when it's combined with the "Bruins players would have stood up for themselves!" mentality, as if Brad Marchand is the kind of player to defend himself after a dirty hit.

It's the same holier than thou attitude we see with diving.

shinkdew wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:It almost sounds like someone doesn't like the bruins.

I can't explain, let alone defend, Thornton. He obviously crossed the line, but I have to imagine things would have played out differently if the refs had called the penguins on their dirty plays earlier and orpik had done the proper thing and dropped the gloves.

That's pretty rich given you always make excuses for Lucic by saying he doesn't need to fight the other team's goon because he's too valuable.

You might be confusing the point of these two different situations.

Door 1: a goon goes to lucic and challenges him, in an effort to get his own team pumped up and to hopefully take Boston's top scorer off the ice.

Door 2: lucic does something, like lay a big hit on somebody, the other team then challenges lucic to fight. To which he complies.

Peeps wrote:

shinkdew wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Have a nice vacation, Thornton!

Neal will be with him. I reiterate that Neal is one of the dirtiest players in the league. Two of the dirtiest plays I've seen in a while in a 30 second span.

I will say this Neal should get 2 games just cause it was a hit to the head but it didn't look like he stuck his knee out. Thornton 5-10?

what a comeback by the bruins...though id say it was 49% them and 51% stupid plays be the pens

I'd be happy with 4 or 5 for Neal. It was just so senseless.

I'm a big Bruins fan but Thornton should get at least 10 games. More if he counts as a repeat offender. Thornton did something stupid that had an outcome he never foresaw but that he is wholly responsible for. Not that it matters to either the on ice act or the suspension coming, but he did sound truly contrite for the outcome and did not try to duck his responsibility in any way.

surfndestroy wrote:I'd be happy with 4 or 5 for Neal. It was just so senseless.

I'm a big Bruins fan but Thornton should get at least 10 games. More if he counts as a repeat offender. Thornton did something stupid that had an outcome he never foresaw but that he is wholly responsible for. Not that it matters to either the on ice act or the suspension coming, but he did sound truly contrite for the outcome and did not try to duck his responsibility in any way.

Agreed on the length of suspensions. I feelse like Neal will only get 2-3 because Marchand wasn't hurt, but it should be more.

This all could have been avoided if hockey was never invented......

Peeps wrote:This all could have been avoided if hockey was never invented......

Blame Canada is getting so old.

clearly the puck is 20 feet away from eriksson when the hit is made

Peeps wrote:

clearly the puck is 20 feet away from eriksson when the hit is made

Who made that statement?

elliseamos wrote: Who made that statement?

TSN boards....

i agree neal should be suspended (im guessing around 5) and yes what duper did was stupid but that seems to be all that is being pointed out. lets not talk about the crosscheck to connor or charas butt end of kunitz...

it all boils down to orpik (they claim he is the pens enforcer) not fighting thorton and neal being dirty. they also claimed the bruins lost three guys, 1 for a broken leg (dupis responsible) and eriksson and marchand.

never mind marchand was back in a shift or two or that orpiks hit was clean.

crosby got lit up by giroux almost the same way...yet everyone cheers cause they hate crosby...but orpik does it and its a crime cause orpik plays for the pens