Under the Court's recent interpretation of the Major Questions doctrine, the NCLA case is a slam dunk. I remain as foolishly optimistic as ever that there's not a majority of Trumpy Justices.96583UP wrote:Koch Brothers lawsuit ... maybe it has a chance ... says the word 'tariffs' is not used in the emergency act ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/con ... e-tariffs/
The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a law firm that fights federal overreach, filed a complaint Thursday in Florida federal court on behalf of north Florida paper company Simplified and its owner Emily Ley to stop Trump’s 20 percent tariffs on all Chinese imports under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
“The President purported to order these tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (‘IEEPA’), but that is a statute that authorizes presidents to order sanctions as a rapid response to international emergencies,” the lawsuit asserts.
“It does not allow a president to impose tariffs on the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders imposing a China tariff are, therefore, ultra vires and unconstitutional. This Court should enjoin their implementation and enforcement.”
Does anyone care about the economy?
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i thought you were going to stop the "gay" talk...96583UP wrote:it is a time of strange bedfellows indeedtragabigzanda wrote:koch bros to the rescue!
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Every single thing playing out in the courts is just astounding but I guess we knew we would get here?4/5 wrote:Under the Court's recent interpretation of the Major Questions doctrine, the NCLA case is a slam dunk. I remain as foolishly optimistic as ever that there's not a majority of Trumpy Justices.96583UP wrote:Koch Brothers lawsuit ... maybe it has a chance ... says the word 'tariffs' is not used in the emergency act ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/con ... e-tariffs/
The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a law firm that fights federal overreach, filed a complaint Thursday in Florida federal court on behalf of north Florida paper company Simplified and its owner Emily Ley to stop Trump’s 20 percent tariffs on all Chinese imports under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
“The President purported to order these tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (‘IEEPA’), but that is a statute that authorizes presidents to order sanctions as a rapid response to international emergencies,” the lawsuit asserts.
“It does not allow a president to impose tariffs on the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders imposing a China tariff are, therefore, ultra vires and unconstitutional. This Court should enjoin their implementation and enforcement.”
I did not read the EOs attached to the tariffs, I've literally just been trying to manage dealing with the instant reaction to them on the wholesale side and it is... not fun.
I clearly did not see this angle but am also foolishly optimistic, should the call go to the Chiefs (sorry Joe) this might be the first actual nail in the coffin.
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may the koch brothers liberate us from liberation day
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH0Ztzns ... l1ZzQxZDR2tragabigzanda wrote:Compact: The Working Class Needs Jobs, Not Therapy
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When I saw Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens speaking in her soft voice about “mental health support” for the steelworkers in Port Talbot, I felt physically sick. Just six months ago, Tata Steel shut down Port Talbot’s last two blast furnaces as part of a so-called green transition, resulting in thousands of job losses and the effective end of traditional steelmaking in the town. In her video, Stevens explained that “wellbeing” is essential for “getting back to work.” It was pitched as a compassionate gesture, but to me and I suspect many others from communities like mine, it was obvious what it was: Nearly $4 million pledged to provide the educated middle class with respectable occupations aimed at containing the rabble.
I am from the industrial working class. The men in my family were coal miners going back generations. We were proud people; we kept the lights on. The women in my family worked in textile factories. I did too, for a decade after leaving school at 16 with no qualifications. Those communities weren’t perfect, and factory work wasn’t easy, but people provided for each other. They had purpose. They had pride. And they knew the importance of stable and skilled work. It is the difference between living a life with dignity, with a shared sense of identity and community, and the life of the lumpen—precarious, constantly hustling, trying to make enough to pay the rent, living and existing between low pay and no pay with no faint hope that this changes for your children.
Since the late 1980s, we have watched the lights go out. The coal mines closed, not because Britain no longer needed coal, but because we chose to import it from the USA, Australia, Russia, and South Africa. The textile factories and steelworks closed as manufacturing moved offshore to stay “globally competitive.” No government in the past 40 years be they Labour or Tory has offered a national economic plan that includes us. The North, the Midlands, the coasts, and Wales have been left to rot as politicians invested in the service economy, the cities, and in the financialization of the economy.
And now, they offer us counseling.
Working-class people have watched their communities sink into managed decline. They’ve seen their living standards sink, and their children’s futures disappear. Well-paid, skilled work has been replaced with warehousing, app jobs in the gig economy, and care work—all filtered through an agency. It is reminiscent of the dock workers in the last century, having to wait at the gate of the docks and fight each other for a day’s work. It is humiliating. It plunges people into levels of poverty not seen since the 19th century. It makes people afraid, angry, and divided.
Thousands of steelworkers have lost their jobs in Port Talbot. The promised green jobs haven’t materialized. And the government’s answer is to train union reps in suicide prevention, offer therapy for children in schools, and fund Men’s Sheds and “She Sheds”—community hubs for the newly unemployed to drink tea, craft, and talk about their feelings. The message couldn’t be clearer: You’re not unemployed because of political decisions or economic betrayal. You’re just unwell.
This is what managed decline looks like in the therapeutic age. Instead of jobs, we get wellbeing seminars. Instead of industrial policy, we get “community projects.” It is cruel, and it is patronizing. It reframes structural devastation as an individual problem, to be solved by coping and talking—preferably to a well-paid professional.
But for many of us, there is no “recovery” therapeutic or otherwise. For many of us, this loss of purpose, dignity, and stability is permanent. We are not grieving a single layoff, but the slow collapse of a whole way of life. It is a way of life that politicians like Jo Stevens can pretend is easily replaced with middle-class do-gooders running drama workshops or hosting symposiums on toxic masculinity.
These communities have been disregarded and demeaned for forty years. Keeping one class on its knees so there is interesting work for the middle class adds insult to injury. They offer therapy, not dignity. They offer coping, not a future. That isn’t support. It’s containment.
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Haha Polish builders are definitely on the suicidal edge. Hard labor and a constant stream of cigarettes seem to be the only thing keeping them from going on a killing spree of smashing skulls. Probably just too tired. Then a steady diet of Zywiecs in the evening to keep them docile.
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absinthe makes the heart grow fonder...
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oasisfan35 wrote:Every single thing playing out in the courts is just astounding but I guess we knew we would get here?4/5 wrote:Under the Court's recent interpretation of the Major Questions doctrine, the NCLA case is a slam dunk. I remain as foolishly optimistic as ever that there's not a majority of Trumpy Justices.96583UP wrote:Koch Brothers lawsuit ... maybe it has a chance ... says the word 'tariffs' is not used in the emergency act ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/con ... e-tariffs/
The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a law firm that fights federal overreach, filed a complaint Thursday in Florida federal court on behalf of north Florida paper company Simplified and its owner Emily Ley to stop Trump’s 20 percent tariffs on all Chinese imports under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
“The President purported to order these tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (‘IEEPA’), but that is a statute that authorizes presidents to order sanctions as a rapid response to international emergencies,” the lawsuit asserts.
“It does not allow a president to impose tariffs on the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders imposing a China tariff are, therefore, ultra vires and unconstitutional. This Court should enjoin their implementation and enforcement.”
I did not read the EOs attached to the tariffs, I've literally just been trying to manage dealing with the instant reaction to them on the wholesale side and it is... not fun.
I clearly did not see this angle but am also foolishly optimistic, should the call go to the Chiefs (sorry Joe) this might be the first actual nail in the coffin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rade-court
President Donald Trump’s global tariffs were deemed illegal and blocked by the US trade court, dealing a major blow to a pillar of the Republican’s economic agenda.
The ruling can now be appealed by the Trump administration in federal court.
A panel of three judges at the US Court of International Trade in Manhattan issued a ruling Wednesday siding with Democratic-led states and a group of small businesses that argued Trump had wrongfully invoked an emergency law to justify the levies.
The decision is one of the biggest setbacks yet for Trump in court amid a wave of lawsuits over executive orders in which he is testing the limits of presidential power. Others are challenging Trump’s mass firings of federal workers, restrictions on birthright citizenship and efforts to slash federal spending already approved by Congress.
Global markets have fluctuated wildly since Trump announced the levies in a sweeping executive order an April 2. Since then, trillions of dollars in market value have been shed and regained amid weeks of delays, reversals and announcements about potential trade deals, particularly with China.
White House representatives didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
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If this 'tool' can be removed from his tired bag of fuckery96583UP wrote:oasisfan35 wrote:Every single thing playing out in the courts is just astounding but I guess we knew we would get here?4/5 wrote:Under the Court's recent interpretation of the Major Questions doctrine, the NCLA case is a slam dunk. I remain as foolishly optimistic as ever that there's not a majority of Trumpy Justices.96583UP wrote:Koch Brothers lawsuit ... maybe it has a chance ... says the word 'tariffs' is not used in the emergency act ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/con ... e-tariffs/
The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a law firm that fights federal overreach, filed a complaint Thursday in Florida federal court on behalf of north Florida paper company Simplified and its owner Emily Ley to stop Trump’s 20 percent tariffs on all Chinese imports under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
“The President purported to order these tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (‘IEEPA’), but that is a statute that authorizes presidents to order sanctions as a rapid response to international emergencies,” the lawsuit asserts.
“It does not allow a president to impose tariffs on the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders imposing a China tariff are, therefore, ultra vires and unconstitutional. This Court should enjoin their implementation and enforcement.”
I did not read the EOs attached to the tariffs, I've literally just been trying to manage dealing with the instant reaction to them on the wholesale side and it is... not fun.
I clearly did not see this angle but am also foolishly optimistic, should the call go to the Chiefs (sorry Joe) this might be the first actual nail in the coffin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rade-court
President Donald Trump’s global tariffs were deemed illegal and blocked by the US trade court, dealing a major blow to a pillar of the Republican’s economic agenda.
The ruling can now be appealed by the Trump administration in federal court.
A panel of three judges at the US Court of International Trade in Manhattan issued a ruling Wednesday siding with Democratic-led states and a group of small businesses that argued Trump had wrongfully invoked an emergency law to justify the levies.
The decision is one of the biggest setbacks yet for Trump in court amid a wave of lawsuits over executive orders in which he is testing the limits of presidential power. Others are challenging Trump’s mass firings of federal workers, restrictions on birthright citizenship and efforts to slash federal spending already approved by Congress.
Global markets have fluctuated wildly since Trump announced the levies in a sweeping executive order an April 2. Since then, trillions of dollars in market value have been shed and regained amid weeks of delays, reversals and announcements about potential trade deals, particularly with China.
White House representatives didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Long way to go but trudging forward...
absinthe makes the heart grow fonder...
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such a reliefoasisfan35 wrote:If this 'tool' can be removed from his tired bag of fuckery96583UP wrote:oasisfan35 wrote:Every single thing playing out in the courts is just astounding but I guess we knew we would get here?4/5 wrote:Under the Court's recent interpretation of the Major Questions doctrine, the NCLA case is a slam dunk. I remain as foolishly optimistic as ever that there's not a majority of Trumpy Justices.96583UP wrote:Koch Brothers lawsuit ... maybe it has a chance ... says the word 'tariffs' is not used in the emergency act ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/con ... e-tariffs/
The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a law firm that fights federal overreach, filed a complaint Thursday in Florida federal court on behalf of north Florida paper company Simplified and its owner Emily Ley to stop Trump’s 20 percent tariffs on all Chinese imports under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
“The President purported to order these tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (‘IEEPA’), but that is a statute that authorizes presidents to order sanctions as a rapid response to international emergencies,” the lawsuit asserts.
“It does not allow a president to impose tariffs on the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders imposing a China tariff are, therefore, ultra vires and unconstitutional. This Court should enjoin their implementation and enforcement.”
I did not read the EOs attached to the tariffs, I've literally just been trying to manage dealing with the instant reaction to them on the wholesale side and it is... not fun.
I clearly did not see this angle but am also foolishly optimistic, should the call go to the Chiefs (sorry Joe) this might be the first actual nail in the coffin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rade-court
President Donald Trump’s global tariffs were deemed illegal and blocked by the US trade court, dealing a major blow to a pillar of the Republican’s economic agenda.
The ruling can now be appealed by the Trump administration in federal court.
A panel of three judges at the US Court of International Trade in Manhattan issued a ruling Wednesday siding with Democratic-led states and a group of small businesses that argued Trump had wrongfully invoked an emergency law to justify the levies.
The decision is one of the biggest setbacks yet for Trump in court amid a wave of lawsuits over executive orders in which he is testing the limits of presidential power. Others are challenging Trump’s mass firings of federal workers, restrictions on birthright citizenship and efforts to slash federal spending already approved by Congress.
Global markets have fluctuated wildly since Trump announced the levies in a sweeping executive order an April 2. Since then, trillions of dollars in market value have been shed and regained amid weeks of delays, reversals and announcements about potential trade deals, particularly with China.
White House representatives didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Long way to go but trudging forward...
i guess he has already filed an appeal
wonder how long that takes
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Does it matter? All he has to do is say he’s imposing or increasing a tariff somewhere and the market goes sideways.
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evidence of separation of powers matters
and he could lose the appeal
there are other means to pursue tariffs but they take much longer
overall should encourage them to make deals with people bc their power to force them may be weakening
and he could lose the appeal
there are other means to pursue tariffs but they take much longer
overall should encourage them to make deals with people bc their power to force them may be weakening
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Elon is out
That will fix the economy
That will fix the economy
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turns out he was on strong dissociative and psychedelic drugs this whole time who woulda thunk it.. but hey he gets a pretend key to the white house for all his good deeds