WtOB? wrote:showed this track to a buddy of mine in alaska and it reminded him of this:
it's very similar until the chorus; PJ's song is better though
definitely.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 12:05 am
by Noaheb
I quite enjoy this here track...it threw me for a loop on first listen but most good PJ tunes do. Its the ones that are too easy to like right from the start that you have to worry about. amognst the waves hasnt aged well for me and I liked it immediately.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 12:06 am
by McParadigm
Ms Harmless wrote:I started to try and think about these lyrics but I realized that I only really have concrete thoughts about the second half (from "I'm in love..." onwards); there is an awful lot of abstractions in the first verse and I want to be able to ground my ideas about later stuff in that verse, but it's just riddles trying to find a thought
someone else had ideas about the "confusion is to... as love is to..." but I can't remember who it was
I had some thoughts. Might be what you’re thinking of?
McParadigm wrote:I think it's about the idea that trying to control the pieces of our lives that are natural is both wrong and destructive. Let's take the first verse only, for now, but let's take it at its word....at what it is saying directly:
Love is imperceptibly big, which makes it hard to control. This enormity is (we all assume) a positive thing. But the danger is: the same is true of confusion. Confusion...a want to make sense of things that may not in their natural state make sense...is as powerful a human force as love. And where love causes devotion, confusion only causes commotion. Destructiveness. The inability to see clearly.
So don't try to predict these forces, and don't waste your time trying to control or use them as a means to an end. Reject the urge to convince yourself that you can. Reject the idea that confusion can be broken through, simply by using equations and well-structured arguments. Interpretations are, at their heart, open. They're part of an instinctive urge to force perfection where beauty already existed. Don't do it. Stand back when the spirit comes. Stand back.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 12:06 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Hey man!
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 12:14 am
by Ms Harmless
McParadigm wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I started to try and think about these lyrics but I realized that I only really have concrete thoughts about the second half (from "I'm in love..." onwards); there is an awful lot of abstractions in the first verse and I want to be able to ground my ideas about later stuff in that verse, but it's just riddles trying to find a thought
someone else had ideas about the "confusion is to... as love is to..." but I can't remember who it was
I had some thoughts. Might be what you’re thinking of?
McParadigm wrote:I think it's about the idea that trying to control the pieces of our lives that are natural is both wrong and destructive. Let's take the first verse only, for now, but let's take it at its word....at what it is saying directly:
Love is imperceptibly big, which makes it hard to control. This enormity is (we all assume) a positive thing. But the danger is: the same is true of confusion. Confusion...a want to make sense of things that may not in their natural state make sense...is as powerful a human force as love. And where love causes devotion, confusion only causes commotion. Destructiveness. The inability to see clearly.
So don't try to predict these forces, and don't waste your time trying to control or use them as a means to an end. Reject the urge to convince yourself that you can. Reject the idea that confusion can be broken through, simply by using equations and well-structured arguments. Interpretations are, at their heart, open. They're part of an instinctive urge to force perfection where beauty already existed. Don't do it. Stand back when the spirit comes. Stand back.
that's right! it was you; good thoughts
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 12:23 am
by Ms Harmless
the only part of Ed's enunciation that bothers me slightly is "mwoar" and "fwoar"
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 1:44 am
by Jaeti
Not sure who posted this over the weekend, but I've fully adopted the lyric, "Numbers keep falling off, the calendar's flaw"
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 1:47 am
by Rob
McParadigm wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I started to try and think about these lyrics but I realized that I only really have concrete thoughts about the second half (from "I'm in love..." onwards); there is an awful lot of abstractions in the first verse and I want to be able to ground my ideas about later stuff in that verse, but it's just riddles trying to find a thought
someone else had ideas about the "confusion is to... as love is to..." but I can't remember who it was
I had some thoughts. Might be what you’re thinking of?
McParadigm wrote:I think it's about the idea that trying to control the pieces of our lives that are natural is both wrong and destructive. Let's take the first verse only, for now, but let's take it at its word....at what it is saying directly:
Love is imperceptibly big, which makes it hard to control. This enormity is (we all assume) a positive thing. But the danger is: the same is true of confusion. Confusion...a want to make sense of things that may not in their natural state make sense...is as powerful a human force as love. And where love causes devotion, confusion only causes commotion. Destructiveness. The inability to see clearly.
So don't try to predict these forces, and don't waste your time trying to control or use them as a means to an end. Reject the urge to convince yourself that you can. Reject the idea that confusion can be broken through, simply by using equations and well-structured arguments. Interpretations are, at their heart, open. They're part of an instinctive urge to force perfection where beauty already existed. Don't do it. Stand back when the spirit comes. Stand back.
McP. Yes. Love it. Some things are just out of our control.
I’ve always liked Eddie’s lyrics. Hit or miss the last couple albums but these are really good.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 1:55 am
by verb_to_trust
durdencommatyler wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Yeah, I mean he's back from wherever he disappeared to since this came out and posting today in other threads. It is pissing me off, tbh.
What if we put some false information out there that there was a woman credited on the track?
How are you not exhausted by this yet?
I'm not sure what you mean
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 2:22 am
by evenslow
Rob wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I started to try and think about these lyrics but I realized that I only really have concrete thoughts about the second half (from "I'm in love..." onwards); there is an awful lot of abstractions in the first verse and I want to be able to ground my ideas about later stuff in that verse, but it's just riddles trying to find a thought
someone else had ideas about the "confusion is to... as love is to..." but I can't remember who it was
I had some thoughts. Might be what you’re thinking of?
McParadigm wrote:I think it's about the idea that trying to control the pieces of our lives that are natural is both wrong and destructive. Let's take the first verse only, for now, but let's take it at its word....at what it is saying directly:
Love is imperceptibly big, which makes it hard to control. This enormity is (we all assume) a positive thing. But the danger is: the same is true of confusion. Confusion...a want to make sense of things that may not in their natural state make sense...is as powerful a human force as love. And where love causes devotion, confusion only causes commotion. Destructiveness. The inability to see clearly.
So don't try to predict these forces, and don't waste your time trying to control or use them as a means to an end. Reject the urge to convince yourself that you can. Reject the idea that confusion can be broken through, simply by using equations and well-structured arguments. Interpretations are, at their heart, open. They're part of an instinctive urge to force perfection where beauty already existed. Don't do it. Stand back when the spirit comes. Stand back.
McP. Yes. Love it. Some things are just out of our control.
I’ve always liked Eddie’s lyrics. Hit or miss the last couple albums but these are really good.
he's definitely at his best when writing in abstractions and kind of dancing around a subject. once you add it all together you get the answer.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:12 am
by Oversize
Has anyone actually heard this on a radio station (not PJ Radio) by any chance? Just curious. Seems to me like this one would catch fire but, hell, we get older and more disconnected all the time so who the F knows! (or cares... Just curious)
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:15 am
by evenslow
not like i'm listening to the radio all the time but i've only heard it once in the wild.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:22 am
by Brett
I heard it several times on the rock station that plays at work on the day of release, but I haven't caught it since.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:35 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:37 am
by epilogue
A lot of country bros dig PJ though.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:38 am
by 96583UP
do they prefer Glorified G pearl jam or Ibiza Nightclub pearl jam?
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:41 am
by epilogue
96583UP wrote:do they prefer Glorified G pearl jam or Ibiza Nightclub pearl jam?
What's the one where everyone is high-fiving on the cover?
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Tue January 28, 2020 3:44 am
by 96583UP
durdencommatyler wrote:
96583UP wrote:do they prefer Glorified G pearl jam or Ibiza Nightclub pearl jam?
What's the one where everyone is high-fiving on the cover?
