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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:24 pm
by Ms Harmless
that's why I won't be listening to the live version unless I'm told it's the right tempo

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:25 pm
by RockPusher
The instrumental version (minus the cool intro) is available on youtube and I have to say, it really opens my ears to how much is going on in this song. Love it!

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:36 pm
by WaitingForBluey
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
No way in hell! Not even a real possibility.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:42 pm
by elliseamos
bluestate wrote: a reeeeaaaal possssibiliteee...
Ftfy

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:44 pm
by 96583UP
maybe the first couple performances will be appropriate tempo

then they will start finding shortcuts and Mattspeed will be applied and all we will remember is Ed's loud word-salad

but the first one or two will be OK

although someone probably fucks up a guitar part

but one of them, will be mostly OK

assuming Jeff doesn't get lost on his fretless bass

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:44 pm
by Ms Harmless
it's possible because it happened lol

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:47 pm
by RockPusher
elliseamos wrote:
bluestate wrote: a reeeeaaaal possssibiliteee...
Ftfy
:haha:

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:05 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Ello Sailor wrote:Skunk Anansie is a band. The singer goes by the name Skin.

If that was the joke then I apologize.
Nope. Just an inconsistency on my part.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:06 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Ms Harmless wrote:that's why I won't be listening to the live version unless I'm told it's the right tempo
:haha:

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:16 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
You could argue that many of the riffs on yield are basic. What makes the songs special is that there are many simple riffs layered over each other, sometimes distinctly different from each other that push and pull different emotions while adding tons of depth that makes the songs more than the sum of their parts. DTE has a simple but catchy, dancey riff that takes the spotlight only briefly before concluding with a powerful chord that’s given space to echo out, then in comes Jeff with the bass line to add a layer and bolster Ed’s sad, pleading tone, before finally finishing off with a harsh chord progression that descends into he’ll met with rage in Ed’s voice. There is nothing simple about how DTE is arranged.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
Fattie_Vedder wrote:
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
You could argue that many of the riffs on yield are basic. What makes the songs special is that there are many simple riffs layered over each other, sometimes distinctly different from each other that push and pull different emotions while adding tons of depth that makes the songs more than the sum of their parts. DTE has a simple but catchy, dancey riff that takes the spotlight only briefly before concluding with a powerful chord that’s given space to echo out, then in comes Jeff with the bass line to add a layer and bolster Ed’s sad, pleading tone, before finally finishing off with a harsh chord progression that descends into he’ll met with rage in Ed’s voice. There is nothing simple about how DTE is arranged.
the point is, I could write a similar blurb about Dark Matter; it has subtleties that people insta-mad at Pearl Jam haven't bothered to notice

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:25 pm
by RockPusher
Ms Harmless wrote:
Fattie_Vedder wrote:
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
You could argue that many of the riffs on yield are basic. What makes the songs special is that there are many simple riffs layered over each other, sometimes distinctly different from each other that push and pull different emotions while adding tons of depth that makes the songs more than the sum of their parts. DTE has a simple but catchy, dancey riff that takes the spotlight only briefly before concluding with a powerful chord that’s given space to echo out, then in comes Jeff with the bass line to add a layer and bolster Ed’s sad, pleading tone, before finally finishing off with a harsh chord progression that descends into he’ll met with rage in Ed’s voice. There is nothing simple about how DTE is arranged.
the point is, I could write a similar blurb about Dark Matter; it has subtleties that people insta-mad at Pearl Jam haven't bothered to notice
Those folks need to hear the instrumental version.


Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:31 pm
by Ms Harmless
RockPusher wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Fattie_Vedder wrote:
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
You could argue that many of the riffs on yield are basic. What makes the songs special is that there are many simple riffs layered over each other, sometimes distinctly different from each other that push and pull different emotions while adding tons of depth that makes the songs more than the sum of their parts. DTE has a simple but catchy, dancey riff that takes the spotlight only briefly before concluding with a powerful chord that’s given space to echo out, then in comes Jeff with the bass line to add a layer and bolster Ed’s sad, pleading tone, before finally finishing off with a harsh chord progression that descends into he’ll met with rage in Ed’s voice. There is nothing simple about how DTE is arranged.
the point is, I could write a similar blurb about Dark Matter; it has subtleties that people insta-mad at Pearl Jam haven't bothered to notice
Those folks need to hear the instrumental version.

man, listen to the way those guitar notes ring out over the spaces in the bridge; it's not so far from "Save You" in terms of production, not the deepest thing ever but far from "plastic"

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:31 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Biggest difference with the instrumental version is that you can really hear what the guitars are doing during the chorus. Tasty tasty funka chunk

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:33 pm
by Ms Harmless
bluestate wrote:Biggest difference with the instrumental version is that you can really hear what the guitars are doing during the chorus. Tasty tasty funka chunk
they're doing the same thing in Ed's version, and if we heard literally any instrumental in the "classic" catalogue we'd hear new subtleties in those too

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:34 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Ms Harmless wrote:
bluestate wrote:Biggest difference with the instrumental version is that you can really hear what the guitars are doing during the chorus. Tasty tasty funka chunk
they're doing the same thing in Ed's version, and if we heard literally any instrumental in the "classic" catalogue we'd hear new subtleties in those too
Hmm, kinda makes you wonder...

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:34 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Ms Harmless wrote:
Fattie_Vedder wrote:
RockPusher wrote:If DTE came out today, there'd be people on this board bemoaning its "basic" riff
You could argue that many of the riffs on yield are basic. What makes the songs special is that there are many simple riffs layered over each other, sometimes distinctly different from each other that push and pull different emotions while adding tons of depth that makes the songs more than the sum of their parts. DTE has a simple but catchy, dancey riff that takes the spotlight only briefly before concluding with a powerful chord that’s given space to echo out, then in comes Jeff with the bass line to add a layer and bolster Ed’s sad, pleading tone, before finally finishing off with a harsh chord progression that descends into he’ll met with rage in Ed’s voice. There is nothing simple about how DTE is arranged.
the point is, I could write a similar blurb about Dark Matter; it has subtleties that people insta-mad at Pearl Jam haven't bothered to notice
Not disagreeing.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:36 pm
by Jorge
That YouTube video sounds bad because of the sound quality, it's very low bitrate like a bad mp3 so it sounds all watery. Is the official version available anywhere to stream?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:39 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Jorge wrote:That YouTube video sounds bad because of the sound quality, it's very low bitrate like a bad mp3 so it sounds all watery. Is the official version available anywhere to stream?
Well, it is only $0.99 to purchase from ten club. Which I would have been able to afford.... had I not just spent $89 for a vinyl and a CD!

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 10:43 pm
by Ms Harmless
if I have one complaint about this song it's that I'll be on my death bed before Matt decides to crank up his snare drum