Red Mosquito

DDWJMUVW wrote:

stip wrote:If Im being honest with myself, Pearl Jam has 3 masterpiece records. Ten -> Vitalogy, a 3 album stretch that in my opinion has never been bettered. Every other record falls below those heights - but I dont need them to be. there is a near mystical singularity to my relationship with those songs (and they are the ones that endured). For me its a question of how many good to great songs did it produce and do they cohere sonically and thematically in a way that elevates the material. Gigaton did the later in spades. still does

Yield is a and maybe THE masterpiece.

bluestate wrote:So I finally got out for a run with the new PJ Running Playlist and I'm happy to report that I was able to keep a pretty spritzy pace

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm good with never hearing Ed rap.

https://youtu.be/YaQkXJlYQt8?si=nJ70naEuUkGdeSsE

tommy wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm good with never hearing Ed rap.

https://youtu.be/YaQkXJlYQt8?si=nJ70naEuUkGdeSsE

Jesus

tommy wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm good with never hearing Ed rap.

https://youtu.be/YaQkXJlYQt8?si=nJ70naEuUkGdeSsE

Jesus

RockPusher wrote:

DeeDee wrote:Would you be a diehard PJ fan if the first record they put out was Gigaton?

The fact that you can live without listening to Ten again doesn't erase other fact: Ten is a legendary album, Gigaton is not.

And the most important thing to me: the songs. I can't see Never Destination being better than RVM, or Buckle up better than Leash, or River Cross better than Indifference, or Who Ever Said better than Go, or SWBM better than Daughter, and so on. We are talking about worlds apart.

I just can't comprehend it.

All due respect.

That's part of being human. We can't comprehend how other people think. Yeah, I probably would be a die-hard if the first record was Gigaton. It's authentic Pearl Jam to me, in the same way those Vs. songs are to you. Now as a little thought exercise, let's see how these play out in my brain:

RVM>ND
BU>Leash
Indifference>River Cross but it's closer than you'd think
WES>Go but again, very close
Daughter>SBWM

Different strokes for different folks. I absolutely adore the song "Come Back." Many PJ fans think it's one of their worst. I can't stand "Johnny Guitar" and many here think it's one of their best. Thank god that PJ has offered us such a diverse experience.

falcaoruiz wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

DeeDee wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:RANK EM

1-No Code
2-Vs
3-Gigaton
4-Binaural
5-Yield
6-Ten
7-ST
8-RA
9-Vitalogy
10-Backspacer
11-LB

1. VS
2. Ten
3. Vitalogy
4. Yield
5. No Code
6. ST
7. Binaural
8. Riot Act
9. Backspacer
10. Gigaton
11. Lightning Bolt

I honestly feel my heartbeat go up when I see Gigaton over the best record ever aka Vs.

Yield
Ten
Vs
No Code
Vitalogy
Riot Act
Binaural
S/T
Gig
BS
LB

I sometimes forget, but man No Code through Riot Act was such a solid run.

No Code through Riot Act was the best run for PJ. They sounded like a rock band authentically progressing and evolving into a mature, somewhat experimental, somewhat still rocking, band. They knew how to push the envelope, but never straying from what they do best. Taking risks, but never stepping out of line into ridiculousness or self-awarenessless.

It all started to go down hill with Avocado, with a few ups and a few downs in between, but it has never been the same since.

oneway23 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:In addition to having different opinions about any given piece of art, every individual interprets the word “masterpiece” in a different way.

Regardless of the dictionary definition, some people see masterpiece as a way to describe a creative or technical highwater mark (an artist’s master piece). Others assign it to most any work that feels exemplary. Still others would argue that very few works exist worthy of the term.

So it’s all subjective. Perhaps the only objective fact is that neither Gigaton nor Binaural is a masterpiece, but they both grew out of great and interesting creative ground, and that makes them more interesting than their base quality level.

That set-up was a masterpiece...the post, a fully satisfying emotional ride

stip wrote:1991-1994. 2008-2024. 1995-2007

that is the correct order. or its my order. I am prepared to concede it is slightly idiosyncratic

DeeDee wrote:

stip wrote:1991-1994. 2008-2024. 1995-2007

that is the correct order. or its my order. I am prepared to concede it is slightly idiosyncratic

To me, and to put just a handful of songs, I got Id, Off he goes, Present Tense, In My Tree, Yield as a whole, Light Years, NAIS and Insignificance are better than everything the've done between 2008 and 2024.

DeeDee wrote:

stip wrote:1991-1994. 2008-2024. 1995-2007

that is the correct order. or its my order. I am prepared to concede it is slightly idiosyncratic

To me, and to put just a handful of songs, I got Id, Off he goes, Present Tense, In My Tree, Yield as a whole, Light Years, NAIS and Insignificance are better than everything the've done between 2008 and 2024.

falcaoruiz wrote:

DDWJMUVW wrote:

DeeDee wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:RANK EM

1-No Code
2-Vs
3-Gigaton
4-Binaural
5-Yield
6-Ten
7-ST
8-RA
9-Vitalogy
10-Backspacer
11-LB

1. VS
2. Ten
3. Vitalogy
4. Yield
5. No Code
6. ST
7. Binaural
8. Riot Act
9. Backspacer
10. Gigaton
11. Lightning Bolt

I honestly feel my heartbeat go up when I see Gigaton over the best record ever aka Vs.

Yield
Ten
Vs
No Code
Vitalogy
Riot Act
Binaural
S/T
Gig
BS
LB

I sometimes forget, but man No Code through Riot Act was such a solid run.

No Code through Riot Act was the best run for PJ. They sounded like a rock band authentically progressing and evolving into a mature, somewhat experimental, somewhat still rocking, band. They knew how to push the envelope, but never straying from what they do best. Taking risks, but never stepping out of line into ridiculousness or self-awarenessless.

It all started to go down hill with Avocado, with a few ups and a few downs in between, but it has never been the same since.

Jorge wrote:Middle Years Supremacy gang rise up

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