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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:55 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:There is absolutely no amount of cheese in Sirens greater than the cheese spewed by BoB's keyboard on Future Days at Wrigley.
Was that trying to be a compliment?
Yeah, I tried. Basically I feel Sirens is far more interesting than Future Days, for lack of a better word. That, and I still can't stand the version of FD at Wrigley.
It's horrible. I think there's a nice song underneath and the studio version will hopefully show it off, but playing it live at Wrigley with BO'B was one of the worst decisions this band has ever made. Except for maybe re-hiring BO'B in the first place.
:thumbsup: I'm holding out hope for the album version. Trying to remain somewhat optimistic about SBM, too, even though it's inclusion still mystifies me.
from the sounds of it, SBM isnt much different then the uke version, so we already know what to expect, and im pretty ok with it now, it may not fit the album but it is what it is

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:56 pm
by harmless
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:There is absolutely no amount of cheese in Sirens greater than the cheese spewed by BoB's keyboard on Future Days at Wrigley.
Was that trying to be a compliment?
Yeah, I tried. Basically I feel Sirens is far more interesting than Future Days, for lack of a better word. That, and I still can't stand the version of FD at Wrigley.
It's horrible. I think there's a nice song underneath and the studio version will hopefully show it off, but playing it live at Wrigley with BO'B was one of the worst decisions this band has ever made. Except for maybe re-hiring BO'B in the first place.
:thumbsup: I'm holding out hope for the album version. Trying to remain somewhat optimistic about SBM, too, even though it's inclusion still mystifies me.
from the sounds of it, SBM isnt much different then the uke version, so we already know what to expect, and im pretty ok with it now, it may not fit the album but it is what it is
Good news is, *nothing* fits this album.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:56 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:There is absolutely no amount of cheese in Sirens greater than the cheese spewed by BoB's keyboard on Future Days at Wrigley.
Was that trying to be a compliment?
Yeah, I tried. Basically I feel Sirens is far more interesting than Future Days, for lack of a better word. That, and I still can't stand the version of FD at Wrigley.
It's horrible. I think there's a nice song underneath and the studio version will hopefully show it off, but playing it live at Wrigley with BO'B was one of the worst decisions this band has ever made. Except for maybe re-hiring BO'B in the first place.
:thumbsup: I'm holding out hope for the album version. Trying to remain somewhat optimistic about SBM, too, even though it's inclusion still mystifies me.
from the sounds of it, SBM isnt much different then the uke version, so we already know what to expect, and im pretty ok with it now, it may not fit the album but it is what it is
Good news is, *nothing* fits this album.
that is the way it sounds

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 2:59 pm
by Revelator
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:
harmless wrote:
Revelator wrote:There is absolutely no amount of cheese in Sirens greater than the cheese spewed by BoB's keyboard on Future Days at Wrigley.
Was that trying to be a compliment?
Yeah, I tried. Basically I feel Sirens is far more interesting than Future Days, for lack of a better word. That, and I still can't stand the version of FD at Wrigley.
It's horrible. I think there's a nice song underneath and the studio version will hopefully show it off, but playing it live at Wrigley with BO'B was one of the worst decisions this band has ever made. Except for maybe re-hiring BO'B in the first place.
:thumbsup: I'm holding out hope for the album version. Trying to remain somewhat optimistic about SBM, too, even though it's inclusion still mystifies me.
from the sounds of it, SBM isnt much different then the uke version, so we already know what to expect, and im pretty ok with it now, it may not fit the album but it is what it is
Good news is, *nothing* fits this album.
that is the way it sounds
Yeah I enjoyed the Uke version, sounds like (from the listening party reviews) there's a bit more of a positive vibe to it, though. I've decided not to concern myself over what "fits" on LB anymore after listening to Sirens. Sounds like this one may be all over the map, and honestly that's kind of exciting.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:00 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:from the sounds of it, SBM isnt much different then the uke version, so we already know what to expect, and im pretty ok with it now, it may not fit the album but it is what it is
Oh, it fits.

It's MYM that don't fit anymore

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:00 pm
by stupidmop
hlniv wrote:Mom strikes again over at the pit

http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 0&start=30

That place is really difficult to enjoy.

I keep going there looking for tickets. And I'm doing some fantasy league thing for the tour, but man, it's getting worse suffering through some of that shit
I wonder why No Code is on my mind?
No code reissue? or everyone on the 'its like no code all over again!' Marketing train?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:02 pm
by stupidmop
I think the unassuming quiet nature of the uke version would have been a nice counter balance to sirens. However I don't think that's what's about to happen.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:04 pm
by Lounge Lizard
stupidmop wrote:I think the unassuming quiet nature of the uke version would have been a nice counter balance to sirens. However I don't think that's what's about to happen.
No, it's gonna be 'Let's shame Tim McGraw', Take 2

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:05 pm
by KurtLeon
Swallowed Whole might be the most insignificant song I've ever heard from Pearl Jam.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:06 pm
by hlniv
stupidmop wrote:
hlniv wrote:Mom strikes again over at the pit

http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 0&start=30

That place is really difficult to enjoy.

I keep going there looking for tickets. And I'm doing some fantasy league thing for the tour, but man, it's getting worse suffering through some of that shit
I wonder why No Code is on my mind?
No code reissue? or everyone on the 'its like no code all over again!' Marketing train?
I highly doubt we see a no code reissue any time soon. I wouldn't try to read anything into what that woman says.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:07 pm
by hlniv
KurtLeon wrote:Swallowed Whole might be the most insignificant song I've ever heard from Pearl Jam.
Wouldn't Insignificance qualify as insignificant?

You know, like how the song Black is really about the lack of color?

And Yellow Ledbetter is about the guitar dude being a pansy-ass chicken?

Or Animal being about my dog?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:08 pm
by Vindicator
I just realized my major disappointment with the album. I look at Pearl Jam as my favorite ROCK band. I'm the guy that gets in the car and blasts Habit, Hail Hail, DTE, Last Exit, Grievance, Go at a very high volume. It's what I love most about them. All their other stuff is wonderful to me as long as I have some hard stuff to go along with it. With this album, we got ZERO hard rock songs. I love MYM, but it's more of a fun punk song to me. Getaway is nowhere near hard, even though I like the song.

So now we have not gotten a true hard rock song since S/T where we got some gems in Life Wasted and Severed Hand. GSMF and Got Some maybe tried, but were all New Wavey in the end. So I've been waiting for 7 years for a hard song , but they didn't have it in them. They made the album they wanted to make , but I can't say it doesn't disappoint me to not get at least ONE true rock moment on an album full of mid tempo songs.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:10 pm
by stupidmop
KurtLeon wrote:Swallowed Whole might be the most insignificant song I've ever heard from Pearl Jam.
You've never Whispered songs inside the wind Breathing in forgiveness either I take it?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:10 pm
by Revelator
Vindicator wrote:I just realized my major disappointment with the album. I look at Pearl Jam as my favorite ROCK band. I'm the guy that gets in the car and blasts Habit, Hail Hail, DTE, Last Exit, Grievance, Go at a very high volume. It's what I love most about them. All their other stuff is wonderful to me as long as I have some hard stuff to go along with it. With this album, we got ZERO hard rock songs. I love MYM, but it's more of a fun punk song to me. Getaway is nowhere near hard, even though I like the song.

So now we have not gotten a true hard rock song since S/T where we got some gems in Life Wasted and Severed Hand. GSMF and Got Some maybe tried, but were all New Wavey in the end. So I've been waiting for 7 years for a hard song , but they didn't have it in them. They made the album they wanted to make , but I can't say it doesn't disappoint me to not get at least ONE true rock moment on an album full of mid tempo songs.
I'm still holding out hope that we'll get a proper version of Of The Earth someday. Not sure if it would be "hard" necessarily (I know what you mean, I'm the same way), but it would definitely be worth blasting at high volume over my shitty car speakers.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:11 pm
by nomorecrackpipes
stupidmop wrote:
I wonder why No Code is on my mind?
No code reissue? or everyone on the 'its like no code all over again!' Marketing train?
Probably drawing parallels of how divisive No Code was upon the fan base.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:13 pm
by Vindicator
Revelator wrote:
Vindicator wrote:I just realized my major disappointment with the album. I look at Pearl Jam as my favorite ROCK band. I'm the guy that gets in the car and blasts Habit, Hail Hail, DTE, Last Exit, Grievance, Go at a very high volume. It's what I love most about them. All their other stuff is wonderful to me as long as I have some hard stuff to go along with it. With this album, we got ZERO hard rock songs. I love MYM, but it's more of a fun punk song to me. Getaway is nowhere near hard, even though I like the song.

So now we have not gotten a true hard rock song since S/T where we got some gems in Life Wasted and Severed Hand. GSMF and Got Some maybe tried, but were all New Wavey in the end. So I've been waiting for 7 years for a hard song , but they didn't have it in them. They made the album they wanted to make , but I can't say it doesn't disappoint me to not get at least ONE true rock moment on an album full of mid tempo songs.
I'm still holding out hope that we'll get a proper version of Of The Earth someday. Not sure if it would be "hard" necessarily (I know what you mean, I'm the same way), but it would definitely be worth blasting at high volume over my shitty car speakers.
I was going to mention Of The Earth. It wouldn't quite satisfy my itch for a hard song, but it would definitely be worth cranking up the volume for and help ease the pain.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:14 pm
by Jaeti
Come Back in Black wrote:Since nothing ever really "happens" with this song... I really dont get why its so long. I think it would be fine 2 minutes shorter. But I think this song will be a "halfway skip" for me. After listening to about half of it... its like.. ok i got it. I'm good. on to next song. So its not a total skip.. its a halfway skip.

I cant imagine what it will be like burning 6 minutes listening to this live. they better pick up the pace. Like double speed
It's as long as it is because it takes that long for it to be amazing, provided you've already done the prerequisite listen-nine-times-in-a-row legwork and recognized that it's amazing.

Once there, though, it's not too long at all, and I wish it went on longer.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:15 pm
by Come Back in Black
Vindicator wrote:I just realized my major disappointment with the album. I look at Pearl Jam as my favorite ROCK band. I'm the guy that gets in the car and blasts Habit, Hail Hail, DTE, Last Exit, Grievance, Go at a very high volume. It's what I love most about them. All their other stuff is wonderful to me as long as I have some hard stuff to go along with it. With this album, we got ZERO hard rock songs. I love MYM, but it's more of a fun punk song to me. Getaway is nowhere near hard, even though I like the song.

So now we have not gotten a true hard rock song since S/T where we got some gems in Life Wasted and Severed Hand. GSMF and Got Some maybe tried, but were all New Wavey in the end. So I've been waiting for 7 years for a hard song , but they didn't have it in them. They made the album they wanted to make , but I can't say it doesn't disappoint me to not get at least ONE true rock moment on an album full of mid tempo songs.
Avacodo was awesome. Love the harder stuff... what you mentioned and Comatose.. Loved the Marker in the Sand and the Beatlesesque Parachutes. This makes me nervous. i have not heard any leaks other than sirens. I do love Lightening bolt from Wrigley thougso hopeing im into the studio version.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:18 pm
by Jaeti
Lounge Lizard wrote:Fuck Pearl Jam for infecting me with the "I study your FAACE!.. The fear goes away... the fear goes away" and making me feel like a goddamn Belieber when I accidently start humming that shit in public
It's some serious voodoo.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 18, 2013 3:20 pm
by harmless
Jaeti wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Fuck Pearl Jam for infecting me with the "I study your FAACE!.. The fear goes away... the fear goes away" and making me feel like a goddamn Belieber when I accidently start humming that shit in public
It's some serious voodoo.
When you been struck by the lightning bolt, you don't know where it comes from, don't know where it goes.