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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:51 am
by The Argonaut
I'm going to punish you in a second, buddy

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:51 am
by Ms Harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't care if you respect and "agree with" who I am, Burt; it would be nice, but I'll go on regardless
Fine with me! You shouldn't. You can be whatever you want as long as you don't place demands or obligation on me.
I don't demand friendship or respect or kindness from anyone; I ask for it, just like anyone
So you don't think I should be punished if I refuse? Good to know.
aside from any anti-discriminatory policies obligating you to use my correct name and pronouns in certain situations, I'm happy just letting you do what you want and avoiding you
That's just a long way of saying you that I should be punished, so you are placing demands on me.

Be consistent. Embrace the dark side.
IT CAN BE CRUEL, POETIC OR BLIND

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:53 am
by Strat
Yea ok

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:54 am
by Rob
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: Rob, your questions ended up at communicating "yeah but who gives a shit about you lot?"
That's unfortunate. I expressed respect for you on the last page and tried to end this. I don't agree with your views on science and its views on this. I don't feel like I ever expressed the sentiment you're implying. To each their own... I am all for everyone living and loving the way they want.
at least all of that makes you feel good and useful, which counts for something
Not sure why the attitude towards rob. He’s been nothing he cordial and respectful in his questions and trying to understand you
he hasn't, Strat, and neither have you, but that's fine

Rob "disagrees" with me that I'm not a "biologically male" woman; I can acknowledge his scraps of kindness without picking them up off the floor
To be fair, I asked if you thought a "biological male" exists. I never said a word about you, personally.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:54 am
by The Argonaut
Why the need to say anything, guys. It's ok to be quiet, too

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:55 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Did you all see will smith slapped Chris rock at the Oscars?!

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:56 am
by Rangi Guy
And Chris didn't even talk about it at his show. The nerve!

Said something about sill processing it ot something. Well buddy - we've got close to 100 pages of materail here for you while you 'process'

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:56 am
by Ms Harmless
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: Rob, your questions ended up at communicating "yeah but who gives a shit about you lot?"
That's unfortunate. I expressed respect for you on the last page and tried to end this. I don't agree with your views on science and its views on this. I don't feel like I ever expressed the sentiment you're implying. To each their own... I am all for everyone living and loving the way they want.
at least all of that makes you feel good and useful, which counts for something
Not sure why the attitude towards rob. He’s been nothing he cordial and respectful in his questions and trying to understand you
he hasn't, Strat, and neither have you, but that's fine

Rob "disagrees" with me that I'm not a "biologically male" woman; I can acknowledge his scraps of kindness without picking them up off the floor
To be fair, I asked if you thought a "biological male" exists. I never said a word about you, personally.
yes, and I answered that: a "biological male" is someone who 1) has a body and anatomy, and 2) is a man

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:58 am
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did you all see will smith slapped Chris rock at the Oscars?!
I hope they take his award away and then he can go away for a bit and come back ready to make amends and be a champion once again ! He can even play himself in the movie about his life. We all love a good underdog story!

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:59 am
by BurtReynolds
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Did you all see will smith slapped Chris rock at the Oscars?!
Really addressing the elephant in the room. Very impolite!

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:00 am
by Rob
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: Rob, your questions ended up at communicating "yeah but who gives a shit about you lot?"
That's unfortunate. I expressed respect for you on the last page and tried to end this. I don't agree with your views on science and its views on this. I don't feel like I ever expressed the sentiment you're implying. To each their own... I am all for everyone living and loving the way they want.
at least all of that makes you feel good and useful, which counts for something
Not sure why the attitude towards rob. He’s been nothing he cordial and respectful in his questions and trying to understand you
he hasn't, Strat, and neither have you, but that's fine

Rob "disagrees" with me that I'm not a "biologically male" woman; I can acknowledge his scraps of kindness without picking them up off the floor
To be fair, I asked if you thought a "biological male" exists. I never said a word about you, personally.
yes, and I answered that: a "biological male" is someone who 1) has a body and anatomy, and 2) is a man



Can you define man?


*Ricky Gervais voice.... "No I shouldn't"*

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:00 am
by BurtReynolds
Rangi Guy wrote:And Chris didn't even talk about it at his show. The nerve!

Said something about sill processing it ot something. Well buddy - we've got close to 100 pages of materail here for you while you 'process'
Ha really? That's kinda funny, but I probably would have booed him anyway.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:02 am
by Ms Harmless
as for my "history of equating disagreement with unkindness", that's kind of an obvious straw biological male

that doesn't happen with most issues, it repeatedly happens with a few

if I say "here is my identity and here is how you and society can embrace and be kind towards it", and you say yes to the first part but no to the second? it's not kindness, it's just niceness to soothe your own ego

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:02 am
by Rob
BurtReynolds wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:And Chris didn't even talk about it at his show. The nerve!

Said something about sill processing it ot something. Well buddy - we've got close to 100 pages of materail here for you while you 'process'
Ha really? That's kinda funny, but I probably would have booed him anyway.
It would have given you conspiracy theorists a lot of fuel.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:03 am
by tree_
What if there were … no categories or definitions. No identifications whatsoever. Just floating thoughts and feelings. No attachments

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:04 am
by macphisto
How is babby formed? How girl get pragnent?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:04 am
by Ms Harmless
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: Rob, your questions ended up at communicating "yeah but who gives a shit about you lot?"
That's unfortunate. I expressed respect for you on the last page and tried to end this. I don't agree with your views on science and its views on this. I don't feel like I ever expressed the sentiment you're implying. To each their own... I am all for everyone living and loving the way they want.
at least all of that makes you feel good and useful, which counts for something
Not sure why the attitude towards rob. He’s been nothing he cordial and respectful in his questions and trying to understand you
he hasn't, Strat, and neither have you, but that's fine

Rob "disagrees" with me that I'm not a "biologically male" woman; I can acknowledge his scraps of kindness without picking them up off the floor
To be fair, I asked if you thought a "biological male" exists. I never said a word about you, personally.
yes, and I answered that: a "biological male" is someone who 1) has a body and anatomy, and 2) is a man



Can you define man?


*Ricky Gervais voice.... "No I shouldn't"*
I already did, for Tree

a man is someone who is happy that his identity is "man", regardless of the sex he was assigned at birth

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:05 am
by Rob
tree_ wrote:What if there were … no categories or definitions. No identifications whatsoever. Just floating thoughts and feelings. No attachments
I think John Lennon wrote a song about this.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:06 am
by Rob
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: Rob, your questions ended up at communicating "yeah but who gives a shit about you lot?"
That's unfortunate. I expressed respect for you on the last page and tried to end this. I don't agree with your views on science and its views on this. I don't feel like I ever expressed the sentiment you're implying. To each their own... I am all for everyone living and loving the way they want.
at least all of that makes you feel good and useful, which counts for something
Not sure why the attitude towards rob. He’s been nothing he cordial and respectful in his questions and trying to understand you
he hasn't, Strat, and neither have you, but that's fine

Rob "disagrees" with me that I'm not a "biologically male" woman; I can acknowledge his scraps of kindness without picking them up off the floor
To be fair, I asked if you thought a "biological male" exists. I never said a word about you, personally.
Ok, how about Male, as in what the hospital records?

yes, and I answered that: a "biological male" is someone who 1) has a body and anatomy, and 2) is a man



Can you define man?


*Ricky Gervais voice.... "No I shouldn't"*
I already did, for Tree

a man is someone who is happy that his identity is "man", regardless of the sex he was assigned at birth

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:07 am
by Strat
Ms Harmless wrote:as for my "history of equating disagreement with unkindness", that's kind of an obvious straw biological male

that doesn't happen with most issues, it repeatedly happens with a few

if I say "here is my identity and here is how you and society can embrace and be kind towards it", and you say yes to the first part but no to the second? it's not kindness, it's just niceness to soothe your own ego
Nobody except maybe Burt has said that though. People, mostly rob, are just asking you to discuss the second part with us and help us understand. I certainly was mostly just reading the entire time. But if you come into every situation has “oh that’s typical male shit” then we’re always behind the 8 ball and can’t win with you.