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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 5:31 pm
by bune
BurtReynolds wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) says the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate."
"You could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos," Chaffetz said Friday, according to KSL.com. "Democrats are in disbelief that they have nothing but flailing and screaming to deal with this."
Chaffetz offered no evidence that attendees were paid to be there.
Holy fucking shit.
They aren't paid, but you're kidding yourself if you think middle America is suddenly turning on getting rid of Obamacare.
These are organized protests of democrats, not some groundswell of bipartisan anger.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 7:47 pm
by McParadigm
Trump calls on right-leaning media only, gets not a single question about Flynn. Jesus.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:04 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:15 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:35 pm
by Bi_3
wease wrote:McParadigm wrote:A high ranking unnamed source, who spoke with the Dispatch on the condition of anonymity, has confirmed that President Trump has denied the request on grounds that California, and the city of Sacramento in particular, have failed to enforce federal immigration laws and have threatened to succeed from the Union. The source is quoted as saying:
“The President has no incentive in helping the state of California. The state harbors more illegal immigrants than any other state and has multiple sanctuary cities that violate federal laws. The state very publicly supported Hillary Clinton throughout the election and the President views the state as being responsible for his loss in the popular vote, something he has had trouble with accepting."
Jesus Christ. How pathetic.
Snopes says this is fake news in no uncertain terms. But if we share it around enough, it becomes real!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:38 pm
by Strat
McP is getting a little carried away with cut and paste and not linking to the source. C'mon man! GET IT TOGETHER.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:43 pm
by Birds in Hell
I don't understand the sudden authority given to "unnamed sources", "sources say", "someone close to the administration", etc.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:44 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:McP is getting a little carried away with cut and paste and not linking to the source. C'mon man! GET IT TOGETHER.
He's Bannonizing this thread.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:49 pm
by Norah
Strat wrote:McP is getting a little carried away with cut and paste and not linking to the source. C'mon man! GET IT TOGETHER.
yep
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:50 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:Strat wrote:McP is getting a little carried away with cut and paste and not linking to the source. C'mon man! GET IT TOGETHER.
yep
I hate that I had to make this post against McP. I had to do a similar post towards KD and i haven't been the same since.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Birds in Hell wrote:I don't understand the sudden authority given to "unnamed sources", "sources say", "someone close to the administration", etc.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
I can dig this. Typically when a reputable news source has to cite someone anonymously, there is at least a modicum of explanation as to
why that person needs to remain anonymous. But all the recent stories seem to be painting in very broad strokes, and all seem to give a variation on "Someone in Trump's circle says he's totally incompetent." Which, don't get me wrong, I'm quite sure is true. But the reporting leaves something to be desired.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:57 pm
by Norah
Isn't it normal for information coming directly from the top levels of the executive branch to be from unnamed sources, even pre-trump?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 8:57 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Strat wrote:McP is getting a little carried away with cut and paste and not linking to the source. C'mon man! GET IT TOGETHER.
yep
I hate that I had to make this post against McP. I had to do a similar post towards KD and i haven't been the same since.
yet we do it to dime all the time in the Star Wars threads.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:01 pm
by B
Facebook is recommending that I buy this shirt. I like it, but I can't pull the trigger because of the sloppy cropping around their legs.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
cutuphalfdead wrote:Isn't it normal for information coming directly from the top levels of the executive branch to be from unnamed sources, even pre-trump?
Sure, but the amount of stuff now is suspect, and could easily be viewed as lies from the DNC to undermine Trump. Every time there's a negative report from an unnamed source, it just lends to weight to his FAKE NEWS tweets.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:04 pm
by bune
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Did some research the other day and apparently Bush Sr. and Carter are the only living presidents who could still run, since they both were one-termers.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:04 pm
by LetMeSleep
tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Isn't it normal for information coming directly from the top levels of the executive branch to be from unnamed sources, even pre-trump?
Sure, but the amount of stuff now is suspect, and could easily be viewed as lies from the DNC to undermine Trump. Every time there's a negative report from an unnamed source, it just lends to weight to his FAKE NEWS tweets.
It was very normal in the USSR, Peoples Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea to name a few. Hmmm.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:05 pm
by bune
Birds in Hell wrote:I don't understand the sudden authority given to "unnamed sources", "sources say", "someone close to the administration", etc.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
And yet there's authority given to those same sources for "3 million vote fraud" and the like.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:07 pm
by tragabigzanda
LetMeSleep wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Isn't it normal for information coming directly from the top levels of the executive branch to be from unnamed sources, even pre-trump?
Sure, but the amount of stuff now is suspect, and could easily be viewed as lies from the DNC to undermine Trump. Every time there's a negative report from an unnamed source, it just lends to weight to his FAKE NEWS tweets.
It was very normal in the USSR, Peoples Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea to name a few. Hmmm.
Stop trying to normalize Trump, Spenno!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 9:10 pm
by Norah
bune wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I don't understand the sudden authority given to "unnamed sources", "sources say", "someone close to the administration", etc.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
And yet there's authority given to those same sources for "3 million vote fraud" and the like.
I'm certain most of it is garbage and just serves to reinforce whatever the reader wants to believe.
There's a difference between a cabinet member talking to the washington post on the condition of anonymity and someone just making shit up on twitter.