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I mean...he does have accidental genius moments like this.
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Kinda horseshit though, because there'd have to be separate impeachment proceedings on Pence and they could always fall back on the idea that Trump lied about Pence's involvement.
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Oooooh lets see how Rick Santorum can spin this!
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man. he's impressive. No doubt.
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No fuckin idea what’s happening but I have three trucks of popcorn on the way
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dimejinky99 wrote:No fuckin idea what’s happening but I have three trucks of popcorn on the way
Early reports suggest it’s not what we had hoped:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAHR1Cn

No way the senate impeached that as reported
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This is crooked as hell.
With Mr. Trump’s blessing, Mr. Giuliani has worked for months with current and former Ukrainian prosecutors to seek information and push for investigations into matters that he admitted would be of political benefit to Mr. Trump.
In the weeks leading up to the call, Mr. Zelensky had taken steps toward removing Yuriy Lutsenko, the country’s top prosecutor, with whom Mr. Giuliani had been working to gather information about, and push investigations into, the Bidens and the Manafort documents.

Two days before the call, Mr. Zelensky had floated the name of a successor to Mr. Lutsenko. Mr. Giuliani saw the move to replace Mr. Lutsenko as a threat to the investigations for which he was pushing, and the account of the July 25 call released by the White House suggests that Mr. Trump concurred.
“I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Zelensky, in what people familiar with the conversation said was a reference to Mr. Lutsenko.

“A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down,” Mr. Trump said, later adding that Mr. Lutsenko “was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor.”

In fact, Mr. Lutsenko was widely criticized in Ukraine as corrupt. And his office’s efforts to restart an investigation into the oligarch who owned the company that paid Hunter Biden were seen among some Ukrainian officials as an effort to curry favor with Mr. Trump.
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McParadigm wrote:This is crooked as hell.
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Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire testifying to Congress in 15 mins. Committees have the classified complaint, the rest of congress has a redacted version; they can ask questions related to the redacted version this morning
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Pelosi’s real play here, or perhaps an unintended benefit, is already obvious: for the first time since election, trump doesn’t control the headlines
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The whistleblower’s description of the call, which they heard about second hand, fits the transcript exactly. So maybe the transcript is complete, but that also makes it hard to claim that the whistleblower’s other information is heresy and deserving of deep skepticism.
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lol page one points at Barr, who made no effort to check if he needed to recuse and then immediately told the DNI not to share it.
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“All they did was engage in a lengthy shakedown of a weaker foreign power and then promise to improve relations with them in exchange for assistance in smearing a political opponent, then hide the transcript on a secret server and refuse to let anybody see the whistleblower report. How, I ask you, is any of this a big deal?”
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McParadigm wrote:https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf

That is clearly an impeachable violation if true.
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If you conduct part of your high octane government shakedown on Fox News, you might be a redneck.
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Schiff is having this blubbering idiot for breakfast.
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lol @ Nunes accidentally getting him to say out loud that this is an unprecedented whistleblower complaint.
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