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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:16 pm
by Ms Harmless
2 days until The Giga
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:20 pm
by MattA75
This is the first album since Avocado that I've revisited because I truly wanted to, and not because I felt I had to because it was a Pearl Jam record and I felt I had to be missing something.
Even the songs I'm not crazy about (specifically Superblood Wolfmoon) I end up kind of enjoying when I'm listening to them. Maybe I'll feel differently in six months, but I really like this record right now. I was not nearly as positive about Backspacer or Lightning Bolt. And I'm sure others have brought this up, but this record REALLY drives home a lot of the complaints about BS and LB, especially with regards to the producer/band dynamic.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:22 pm
by burl jam
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:26 pm
by philpritchard
Ms Harmless wrote:philpritchard wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:philpritchard wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:to be fair, her editor should have done that job
Her editor should be responsible for some of it, but a lot of it is just her not having a clue what she's talking about. That's not someone else's fault.
relax, I'm not absolving her of that responsibility; I'm saying that Tree's email is only as bad as the editor's comments would have been if they'd been doing their job properly; of course the writer herself should have done a good first-pass proof read
What about what I said suggests I need to "relax"?
"that's not someone else's fault"
I didn't need correcting on anything I said and your comment was a correction
No, it wasn't. It was my opinion.
Edit: if the tone sounded harsh, it wasn't directed at you; it was directed at the "writer" of the review.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:28 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:2 days until The Giga
Yes! I've resorted to nitpicking reviews to pass the time...excruciating wait!
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:31 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Was hoping to go through the liner notes while doing my first, high quality listen, but it looks like every store is going to be closed. Might be an adventure.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:35 pm
by Ms Harmless
philpritchard wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:philpritchard wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:philpritchard wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:to be fair, her editor should have done that job
Her editor should be responsible for some of it, but a lot of it is just her not having a clue what she's talking about. That's not someone else's fault.
relax, I'm not absolving her of that responsibility; I'm saying that Tree's email is only as bad as the editor's comments would have been if they'd been doing their job properly; of course the writer herself should have done a good first-pass proof read
What about what I said suggests I need to "relax"?
"that's not someone else's fault"
I didn't need correcting on anything I said and your comment was a correction
No, it wasn't. It was my opinion.
Edit: if the tone sounded harsh, it wasn't directed at you; it was directed at the "writer" of the review.
OK, but nowhere did I suggest it wasn't also my opinion; I think you read my "to be fair" as a defense of the writer, when it was actually a defense of Tree's "tone"; so your "yes but" was not needed
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:35 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:Good morning. I just read your review of Pearl Jam's Gigaton, and while I agree with a 3/5 rating, you made many errors in your write-up. Firstly, their last record was not ‘Lightening Speed’ (2013), it was Lightning Bolt. Secondly, the song is not Superblood Woman, it's Superblood Wolfmoon, and you have a spelling error following, as you wrote "am album highlight". Third, Hail Hail was not released in 2011, it was released with their album No Code back in 1996. A simple Google search could have helped you so much here. Then, you mention "hip-shaking swagger and clever time signatures". I'm not sure what song you were listening to, but if you are talking about Superblood Wolfmoon, you might have been listening to the wrong song. It is in a very simple 4/4 throughout. Then, you misspelled Mike McCready's name, as Mcreedy. Then you say "2002’s ‘Riot Act’, which was all furious punk medleys". This is incorrect. The album simply is not filled with all punk medleys. Finally, you wrote "But the question is whether anyone is still listening any more? With this multi-faceted record, the answer is likely yes. It just won’t change your life". Question mark shouldn't be at the end of that first statement. Please do a little bit of research next time you publish a review like this. This is embarrassing for you and NME. Thank you.
Boy I've met some socially inept people in my life but I'm just continually blown away by you
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:39 pm
by Ms Harmless
maybe I am also an asshole, but all I see in the email is corrected mistakes
this has nothing to do with how I normally find Tree as a human
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:40 pm
by Jaeti
Brett wrote:I'm not a big fan of retracking most of the time, but I think I might put together a different sequence at some point.
Yeah, I never do this either, but I might toy around with it for this album.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:41 pm
by oneway23
Monkey_Driven wrote:Was hoping to go through the liner notes while doing my first, high quality listen, but it looks like every store is going to be closed. Might be an adventure.
HDTracks is usually more miss than hit when it comes to liner notes, but, I'll let you know when I buy if the full booklet is included; if so, I'll gladly e-mail it to you.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:42 pm
by PHATJ
Ms Harmless wrote:maybe I am also an asshole, but all I see in the email is corrected mistakes
this has nothing to do with how I normally find Tree as a human
Agreed. Tree is right on this one.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:43 pm
by Thejambi
tree_ wrote:Thejambi wrote:I hate 90% of what tree_has been about around here but that email was 100% acceptable.
You might want to crunch those numbers again. Pretty sure I'm not 90% hate-worthy.
95%
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:44 pm
by tree_
Yeah, I don't understand Jorge's "socially inept" comment, here. It's not like I'm trying to ask her out on a date or something.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:44 pm
by Ms Harmless
PHATJ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:maybe I am also an asshole, but all I see in the email is corrected mistakes
this has nothing to do with how I normally find Tree as a human
Agreed. Tree is right on this one.
it could have done without the "embarrassing" stuff at the end but eh
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:45 pm
by PHATJ
Ms Harmless wrote:PHATJ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:maybe I am also an asshole, but all I see in the email is corrected mistakes
this has nothing to do with how I normally find Tree as a human
Agreed. Tree is right on this one.
it could have done without the "embarrassing" stuff at the end but eh
He’s still right. It is embarrassing.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:47 pm
by Anders
Has anyone tried calling the Pearl Jam Gigaton phone line yet?
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:48 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Anders wrote:Has anyone tried calling the Pearl Jam Gigaton phone line yet?
I did. Once they said I needed to opt into something, I hung up.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:49 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders wrote:Has anyone tried calling the Pearl Jam Gigaton phone line yet?
yes lol I couldn't get through, said something about my phone network not supporting it
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 24, 2020 3:50 pm
by Waverider
UUMMMMMMMM........
Why did my ITUNES release date change to the 29TH!??!!!!
Any of you US counterparts have this change on yours??