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bart wrote:Soulfly

The first few albums, yes. But not anymore.

What are some soulfly bands?

Huh?

Mudvayne and Dan Fogelberg are the only two well-known artists to come from my hometown. Fogelberg flew the coop pretty quick, but Mudvayne were all over the place during their moment -- real hometown boys.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:What about a band like Stabbing Westward? I don't think they fit but I feel like I've heard them described that way.

diet industrial

What are some full industrial bands?

NIN
Pigface
Ministry
KMFDM
Rammstein
Throbbing Gristle

Ah. Interesting. What does Stabbing Westward have in common with those bands that it doesn't have with Nu-Metal bands? I feel like they're removed from this list by at least two degrees.

Kevin Davis wrote:Mudvayne and Dan Fogelberg are the only two well-known artists to come from my hometown. Fogelberg flew the coop pretty quick, but Mudvayne were all over the place during their moment -- real hometown boys.

I'm sorry.

Static X is the best industrial/nu-metal hybrid band. Mushroomhead is a close 2nd for that, but their albums after 2003 have been horrible.

Sevendust have some really great singles but their albums might as well be the same album over and over again.

Mudvayne were amazing on LD.50 and The End of All Things to Come, but after that, fuck 'em. They became butt rock/radio metal.

Soulfly and Max Cavalera's projects have only gotten heavier and better since ditching nu metal entirely after Prophecy. Cavalera Conspiracy is the true modern day Sepultura.

I don't really care for Slipknot much these days, but Iowa onward from them aren't nu metal anymore. Only the debut is nu.

So to settle the "is it nu or is it post grunge" debate, a lot of those bands had a stylistic shift toward what I'll call "nu ballads" and became much more reliant on radio friendly hooks as they moved away from nu metal's heyday, resulting in them being firmly post-grunge.

Staind on Dysfunctional is nu metal, Staind on Break the Cycle onwards is post grunge.

Seether on Disclaimer is nu metal (that album cover is the most nu metal album cover of all time, look it up). After that, radio ready ripoffs of Kurt and Eddie.

Chevelle was nu metal the longest of all of those, their 3rd album has tons of nu metal bangers and they have very, very few slow songs to this day. Their most recent album is a "nu metal revival" album, which is another term I should probably explain in a later post. Basically, nu metal has cycled back into fashion and there's a whole wave of new nu metal bands like Cane Hill, King 810, DED, Islander, Motionless in White, etc. These bands all suck ass, but it's led to bands like Korn, Chevelle and Linkin Park revisiting nu metal in their 2010's albums.

Is Hoobastank nu metal?

Jammer XCI wrote:So to settle the "is it nu or is it post grunge" debate, a lot of those bands had a stylistic shift toward what I'll call "nu ballads" and became much more reliant on radio friendly hooks as they moved away from nu metal's heyday, resulting in them being firmly post-grunge.

Staind on Dysfunctional is nu metal, Staind on Break the Cycle onwards is post grunge.

Seether on Disclaimer is nu metal (that album cover is the most nu metal album cover of all time, look it up). After that, radio ready ripoffs of Kurt and Eddie.

Chevelle was nu metal the longest of all of those, their 3rd album has tons of nu metal bangers and they have very, very few slow songs to this day. Their most recent album is a "nu metal revival" album, which is another term I should probably explain in a later post. Basically, nu metal has cycled back into fashion and there's a whole wave of new nu metal bands like Cane Hill, King 810, DED, Islander, Motionless in White, etc. These bands all suck ass, but it's led to bands like Korn, Chevelle and Linkin Park revisiting nu metal in their 2010's albums.

I do not agree with this. Disclaimer is definitely Post-Grunge. So is Chevelle.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Jammer XCI wrote:So to settle the "is it nu or is it post grunge" debate, a lot of those bands had a stylistic shift toward what I'll call "nu ballads" and became much more reliant on radio friendly hooks as they moved away from nu metal's heyday, resulting in them being firmly post-grunge.

Staind on Dysfunctional is nu metal, Staind on Break the Cycle onwards is post grunge.

Seether on Disclaimer is nu metal (that album cover is the most nu metal album cover of all time, look it up). After that, radio ready ripoffs of Kurt and Eddie.

Chevelle was nu metal the longest of all of those, their 3rd album has tons of nu metal bangers and they have very, very few slow songs to this day. Their most recent album is a "nu metal revival" album, which is another term I should probably explain in a later post. Basically, nu metal has cycled back into fashion and there's a whole wave of new nu metal bands like Cane Hill, King 810, DED, Islander, Motionless in White, etc. These bands all suck ass, but it's led to bands like Korn, Chevelle and Linkin Park revisiting nu metal in their 2010's albums.

I do not agree with this. Disclaimer is definitely Post-Grunge. So is Chevelle.

Seether is the most obvious Nirvana ripoff band outside of Puddle of Mudd, true.

But I still maintain this is the most nu metal album cover of all time, just look at this shit:



I'll cite specific songs and explain the nu metal revival later in a different post, this topic just had to blow up on a day I'm busy as hell.

Oh man! Remember Chevelle?! Wow...

durdencommatyler wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:Mudvayne and Dan Fogelberg are the only two well-known artists to come from my hometown. Fogelberg flew the coop pretty quick, but Mudvayne were all over the place during their moment -- real hometown boys.

I'm sorry.

Nice guys, it always seemed. But I always hated their music, and resented the fact that I was expected to feel some kind of fondness for them just because we got our tap water from the same shit-infested river.

Jammer XCI wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Jammer XCI wrote:So to settle the "is it nu or is it post grunge" debate, a lot of those bands had a stylistic shift toward what I'll call "nu ballads" and became much more reliant on radio friendly hooks as they moved away from nu metal's heyday, resulting in them being firmly post-grunge.

Staind on Dysfunctional is nu metal, Staind on Break the Cycle onwards is post grunge.

Seether on Disclaimer is nu metal (that album cover is the most nu metal album cover of all time, look it up). After that, radio ready ripoffs of Kurt and Eddie.

Chevelle was nu metal the longest of all of those, their 3rd album has tons of nu metal bangers and they have very, very few slow songs to this day. Their most recent album is a "nu metal revival" album, which is another term I should probably explain in a later post. Basically, nu metal has cycled back into fashion and there's a whole wave of new nu metal bands like Cane Hill, King 810, DED, Islander, Motionless in White, etc. These bands all suck ass, but it's led to bands like Korn, Chevelle and Linkin Park revisiting nu metal in their 2010's albums.

I do not agree with this. Disclaimer is definitely Post-Grunge. So is Chevelle.

Seether is the most obvious Nirvana ripoff band outside of Puddle of Mudd, true.

But I still maintain this is the most nu metal album cover of all time, just look at this shit:



I'll cite specific songs and explain the nu metal revival later in a different post, this topic just had to blow up on a day I'm busy as hell.

Haha yeah I remember that cover. If I recall, there were actually a bunch of different variations with different people holding up different messages.

Mudvayne - LD.50 is the most prog sounding nu metal, unless you're an asshole and want to mis-label Tool/APC as nu metal.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:Mudvayne and Dan Fogelberg are the only two well-known artists to come from my hometown. Fogelberg flew the coop pretty quick, but Mudvayne were all over the place during their moment -- real hometown boys.

Nice guys, it always seemed. But I always hated their music, and resented the fact that I was expected to feel some kind of fondness for them just because we got our tap water from the same shit-infested river.

I hope your next book is titled "The Same Shit-Infested River."

I'd be down with a nu metal tourney

By rule of thumb if a band was in their prime from like 97 til say like 02 03, yes, they're nu metal

Jammer XCI wrote:Mudvayne - LD.50 is the most prog sounding nu metal, unless you're an asshole and want to mis-label Tool/APC as nu metal.

I do want to do that

Wait, really? Is Tool nu-metal?