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Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 4:18 pm
by lowlight79
EJ wrote:EVH's guitar on Intruder would be at or near the top of my favorite pieces of music of his. Plus, it is just a great segue intro Pretty Woman.
This and eruption into You really got me. It's sad, it's also sad from everything I read, Eddie really struggled for the last 10-15 years. Getting through the 2015 was especially hard. It's just sad that he never made up with Sammy or Michael Anthony. I mean kicking Anthony out of the band because of his friendship with Hagar looks bad and always will. I hope for some vault stuff, but's unlikely, the VH brothers didn't like releasing live stuff. Right here, Right now live only came out mostly because of Hagar.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 4:23 pm
by lowlight79
verb_to_trust wrote:Fair Warning has its own unique vibe until you get to So This Is Love? That song just doesn't really fit. It's my favorite Dave album though.
Diver down, which is a personal favorite of mine has to be the weirdest album they ever made, especially after WACF and FW. It has five covers, two instrumentals and then some orginal content. Big Bad Bill (is Sweet William now) being a favorite of mine.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 4:47 pm
by Kevin Davis
lowlight79 wrote:EJ wrote:EVH's guitar on Intruder would be at or near the top of my favorite pieces of music of his. Plus, it is just a great segue intro Pretty Woman.
This and eruption into You really got me. It's sad, it's also sad from everything I read, Eddie really struggled for the last 10-15 years. Getting through the 2015 was especially hard. It's just sad that he never made up with Sammy or Michael Anthony. I mean kicking Anthony out of the band because of his friendship with Hagar looks bad and always will. I hope for some vault stuff, but's unlikely, the VH brothers didn't like releasing live stuff. Right here, Right now live only came out mostly because of Hagar.
I happened upon a few Roth-era VH live videos while poking around this morning, and Roth sounded universally awful on all of them -- they got some great takes out of him in the studio, but live it's clear that his musical performance was secondary to his stage presence, probably to the credit of the in-person performance but definitely to the detriment of creating releasable live music. Can't blame the VH bros. for not rushing to get any of this stuff out.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 4:50 pm
by surfndestroy
lowlight79 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Fair Warning has its own unique vibe until you get to So This Is Love? That song just doesn't really fit. It's my favorite Dave album though.
Diver down, which is a personal favorite of mine has to be the weirdest album they ever made, especially after WACF and FW. It has five covers, two instrumentals and then some orginal content. Big Bad Bill (is Sweet William now) being a favorite of mine.
'So This Is Love?' is top five VH for me. Love that he started with the 'So this is love' line on "In A Simple Rhyme' from the previous album.
On Diver Down I am all about the first side. Good Times into Hang 'Em is a great one two punch. Secrets is my favorite from the album. Eddie had a way of making these licks that were all guitar but had such a playful lilt to them. I wish he was as happy in life as he sounded on guitar in this song.
I saw them on the Women and Children First tour. I was young and tripping so I can't vouch for how good they were but I had a great time. I will always remember during the encore Eddie taking a tumble while running across the stage and then just sitting there for a bit, looking like he was laughing about it.
Top Five
So This Is Love?
Little Dreamer
DOA
Unchained
Drop Dead Legs
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 5:03 pm
by verb_to_trust
I agree Michael Anthony's departure was because he was buddies with Sammy but I also think a huge part of that was Eddie wanting to play in a band with his son.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 6:04 pm
by wease
verb_to_trust wrote:I agree Michael Anthony's departure was because he was buddies with Sammy but I also think a huge part of that was Eddie wanting to play in a band with his son.
I think both of those but there may have been something else, too. Remember he had Michael’s name taken off ALL the credits for the music and took him off all the album art briefly. He had some real issues with Mike.
And I remember reading back 25 years ago he wanted to get rid of him in 80 or 81 and replace him with Billy Sheehan.
Ed also played all the bass parts on the Cherone album.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 6:11 pm
by VinylGuy
He seems like Billy Corgan
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 6:12 pm
by VinylGuy
* seemed
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 7:19 pm
by Ello Sailor
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 7:55 pm
by verb_to_trust
VinylGuy wrote:He seems like Billy Corgan
Oddly enough Billy Corgan basically worshipped EVH
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 7:56 pm
by verb_to_trust
wease wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:I agree Michael Anthony's departure was because he was buddies with Sammy but I also think a huge part of that was Eddie wanting to play in a band with his son.
I think both of those but there may have been something else, too. Remember he had Michael’s name taken off ALL the credits for the music and took him off all the album art briefly. He had some real issues with Mike.
And I remember reading back 25 years ago he wanted to get rid of him in 80 or 81 and replace him with Billy Sheehan.
Ed also played all the bass parts on the Cherone album.
They basically had to keep Mike around for the backing vocals. Huge part of their sound.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 8:23 pm
by VinylGuy
verb_to_trust wrote:VinylGuy wrote:He seems like Billy Corgan
Oddly enough Billy Corgan basically worshipped EVH
yeah, i saw a post of him.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 8:38 pm
by lowlight79
surfndestroy wrote:lowlight79 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Fair Warning has its own unique vibe until you get to So This Is Love? That song just doesn't really fit. It's my favorite Dave album though.
Diver down, which is a personal favorite of mine has to be the weirdest album they ever made, especially after WACF and FW. It has five covers, two instrumentals and then some orginal content. Big Bad Bill (is Sweet William now) being a favorite of mine.
'So This Is Love?' is top five VH for me. Love that he started with the 'So this is love' line on "In A Simple Rhyme' from the previous album.
On Diver Down I am all about the first side. Good Times into Hang 'Em is a great one two punch. Secrets is my favorite from the album. Eddie had a way of making these licks that were all guitar but had such a playful lilt to them. I wish he was as happy in life as he sounded on guitar in this song.
I saw them on the Women and Children First tour. I was young and tripping so I can't vouch for how good they were but I had a great time. I will always remember during the encore Eddie taking a tumble while running across the stage and then just sitting there for a bit, looking like he was laughing about it.
Top Five
So This Is Love?
Little Dreamer
DOA
Unchained
Drop Dead Legs
Man, That must of been a great show, but you are like the tenth person I heard from that saw them from 78-82 who said they were insane live. My friend saw them open for Sabbath back in the late 70's and they blew them away the night he went.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 11:01 pm
by evenslow
lowlight79 wrote:My friend saw them open for Sabbath back in the late 70's and they blew them the night he went.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Wed October 07, 2020 11:22 pm
by Ello Sailor
VinylGuy wrote:He seems like Billy Corgan
Please elaborate on this. Not having a go, just curious.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 12:39 am
by verb_to_trust
Are there any modern day guitar heros?
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 1:23 am
by Strat
verb_to_trust wrote:Are there any modern day guitar heros?
People will disagree but the last one is probably Jack White.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 1:24 am
by VinylGuy
Ello Sailor wrote:VinylGuy wrote:He seems like Billy Corgan
Please elaborate on this. Not having a go, just curious.
Super controlling on his music and band, super difficult to work with. Musical genius too.
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 1:26 am
by Strat
You know the shredder guitar player never really blew my skirt up and i only liked some 80's arena rock when i was in my teens...
But that first Van Halen record is pretty great. What a way to come on the scene opening up with Running With the Devil
Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 1:44 am
by verb_to_trust
Strat wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Are there any modern day guitar heros?
People will disagree but the last one is probably Jack White.
He's 45 though. The guitar hero is not a modern concept to today's generation of mumble rappers it seems.