Comes Then Goes

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Death took CC, and Eddie is sad because part of CC belonged to him, and so it was taken away from him too.
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stip wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:collections of what?

some of "it" was mine? what is "it"?

I like the lines too but the sense is a bit murky

Life/time. The queen of collections is death. Assuming this is about CC, the it is the part of his life that touched and defined Ed. The part of ourselves that lives in other people, that causes the hollow that's left when they die.
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yeah these lines are really good; I really like how "queen of collections" feminizes the grim reaper / death character; it's very Tarot, which totally works as a reference / nod to Soundgarden's aesthetic
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stip wrote:Death took CC, and Eddie is sad because part of CC belonged to him, and so it was taken away from him too.
you could say it two ways:
1. death took away any remaining time with CC.
2. the death of CC caused such trauma/anxiety it took time off EV's life.
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yeah, i like that
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I was so confused with "took your time" because I was thinking "took bloody ages to arrive... ugh you took your time didn't ya!"

I was not thinking "stole your time away from this mortal coil"

"stole" may have been stronger than "took"
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it’s clearer, but i like the subtlety


I spend a lot of time thinking about PJ lyrics so who knows what I add that isnt there, but Eddie can be a much more subtle lyricist than people often credit him for. There are nuances that are lost in a superficial and surface read.


but he can also be too easy and obvious when he is sloppy
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it's clear to me that he worked hard on this one
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evenslow wrote:
stip wrote:Death took CC, and Eddie is sad because part of CC belonged to him, and so it was taken away from him too.
you could say it two ways:
1. death took away any remaining time with CC.
that's the way I was reading it... but I like that it could be interpreted different ways
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Ms Harmless wrote:collections of what?

some of "it" was mine? what is "it"?

I like the lines too but the sense is a bit murky

Time spent with the person he's singing about was taken from Ed.
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It’s been said by more than a few here, but the mic-ing of the guitar on this one is superb.

Cannot wait to hear a cleaner version of this whole album.
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Guys this song is so good. This good be 1993 Ed singing. It’s un-believeable. Is there a 1993/Eddie Vedder ProTools filter? And yes the guitar sounds so full and beautiful. I’m glad they just left it pretty much at that.
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Freewheelin wrote:Agree with that, also sad the reference that seemed to confirm there had been a falling out/drift apart between them, but the other references seemed to make it clear why. At least from Ed’s side.

Chris passing must’ve levelled him.

Kinda agree with this. Also, yeah the Queen of collections is such a powerful line. This one is amazing.
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Just bumped this up to 5 stars. This is so good. Probably the best lyrics on this album.
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I just reading them....seems to hint about a possible fight between them? im not sure if he talks about vicki or its all about death taking him.
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oh shit yeah... if the Queen of Collections is the feminine Death / Grim Reaper (who is normally portrayed as masculine), "she" might not be Vicki
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At the same time that line of she bleeding him...sounds like someone would say about her.
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Well The End used to be my favorite Eddie acoustic but this song trumps it.
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Really can’t believe he pulled a song like this off and it wasn’t boring as shit
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McParadigm wrote:Really can’t believe he pulled a song like this off and it wasn’t boring as shit
It really is.
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McParadigm wrote:Really can’t believe he pulled a song like this off and it wasn’t boring as shit
Also surprised.
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