Red Mosquito

tree_ wrote:

digster wrote:Getting criticized for what you say doesn't have anything to do with losing your speech.

of course not but weeze wants me to be banned and silenced because according to him I'm some kind of racist troll

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:

digster wrote:Getting criticized for what you say doesn't have anything to do with losing your speech.

of course not but weeze wants me to be banned and silenced because according to him I'm some kind of racist troll

Prove that you’re not. Evidence already exists that you’re both and you’ve offered nothing to refute that evidence.

durdencommatyler wrote:Why do you have such a hard time using posters' actual usernames? Why do you feel the need to misspell or alter them?

tree_ wrote:

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:

digster wrote:Getting criticized for what you say doesn't have anything to do with losing your speech.

of course not but weeze wants me to be banned and silenced because according to him I'm some kind of racist troll

Prove that you’re not. Evidence already exists that you’re both and you’ve offered nothing to refute that evidence.

can you prove that you're not a serial killer? You have no evidence of me being a racist troll

durdencommatyler wrote:Why do you have such a hard time using posters' actual usernames? Why do you feel the need to misspell or alter them?

64% of all black families live in single-parent households, compared to 40% of Hispanics, 30% of whites, and 17% of Asians. Even more surprising is how the poverty rate for two-parent black households is only 7.5%, which is under the American average of 10.6%. Two-parent black households have a significantly lower poverty rate than white single-mother households, which sits at 25.4%.

tree_ wrote:OK...

So, I see the statistics. It is true that outcomes between blacks and whites are not equal. But it seems to be true that the system provides an equal opportunity for everyone to pursue their goals. Given the circumstances you are born with, you are indeed provided with a unique set of hurdles. A person born into poverty, in a high-crime neighborhood, without a father has a more difficult time. Here's something to consider:

64% of all black families live in single-parent households, compared to 40% of Hispanics, 30% of whites, and 17% of Asians. Even more surprising is how the poverty rate for two-parent black households is only 7.5%, which is under the American average of 10.6%. Two-parent black households have a significantly lower poverty rate than white single-mother households, which sits at 25.4%.

I think that these facts show that an individual’s likelihood of poverty can be determined not by skin color but by personal responsibility and decisions. The difference between two-parent black families and single-parent black families is proof of that. We should be talking about culture, the importance of the family unit, not race.

tree_ wrote:OK...

So, I see the statistics. It is true that outcomes between blacks and whites are not equal. But it seems to be true that the system provides an equal opportunity for everyone to pursue their goals. Given the circumstances you are born with, you are indeed provided with a unique set of hurdles. A person born into poverty, in a high-crime neighborhood, without a father has a more difficult time. Here's something to consider:

64% of all black families live in single-parent households, compared to 40% of Hispanics, 30% of whites, and 17% of Asians. Even more surprising is how the poverty rate for two-parent black households is only 7.5%, which is under the American average of 10.6%. Two-parent black households have a significantly lower poverty rate than white single-mother households, which sits at 25.4%.

I think that these facts show that an individual’s likelihood of poverty can be determined not by skin color but by personal responsibility and decisions. The difference between two-parent black families and single-parent black families is proof of that. We should be talking about culture, the importance of the family unit, not race.

Darrick Hamilton and his colleagues, Khaing Zaw and William Darity of Duke University, examined data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, a national study that began in 1979 and followed a group of young people into adulthood and middle age. The participants were asked about their assets and debts, and interviewers also noted their type of residence, including whether they were in a jail or prison.

About 2.7 percent of the poorest white young people — those whose household wealth was in the poorest 10th of the distribution in 1985, when they were between 20 and 28 years old — ultimately went to prison. In the next 10th, 3.1 percent ultimately went to prison.

About 10 percent of affluent black youths in 1985 would eventually go to prison. Only the very wealthiest black youth had a better chance of avoiding prison than the poorest white youth. Among black young people in this group, 2.4 percent were incarcerated.

Mickey wrote:

digster wrote:The problem with this question is that there are so many examples, many of which are easily apparent, that you really don't know where to start. Here's two you can answer.

- Black Americans own about one tenth the wealth of white Americans. Even college degrees don't close that gap; median wealth for black households with a college degree is about 70% of white Americans without a college degree. Why do you think these gaps exist?

- According to the Department of Justice, in 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the
imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. Why do you think that is?

Josh and macphisto would say because of single-parent households.

tree_ wrote:Why jump to the conclusion that systemic racism/skin color is the culprit? Couldn't it be fairly assumed that if you swap skin colors the results would be the same, given the cultures of the residents' neighborhoods were the same? If I were born into a crime family, it'd be fair to assume I'd be heavily influenced by crime culture no matter the skin color.

Rob wrote:

tree_ wrote:Why jump to the conclusion that systemic racism/skin color is the culprit? Couldn't it be fairly assumed that if you swap skin colors the results would be the same, given the cultures of the residents' neighborhoods were the same? If I were born into a crime family, it'd be fair to assume I'd be heavily influenced by crime culture no matter the skin color.

Well, I guess if I only listened to people who think that racism is solved, I'd believe it too.

digster wrote:From two days ago:

Mickey wrote:

digster wrote:The problem with this question is that there are so many examples, many of which are easily apparent, that you really don't know where to start. Here's two you can answer.

- Black Americans own about one tenth the wealth of white Americans. Even college degrees don't close that gap; median wealth for black households with a college degree is about 70% of white Americans without a college degree. Why do you think these gaps exist?

- According to the Department of Justice, in 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the
imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. Why do you think that is?

Josh and macphisto would say because of single-parent households.

digster wrote:You've been constantly telling us how 'open-minded' you are about all of this. Does it make you question your biases when another poster called exactly how this data would be read within a minute of me posting it?

digster wrote:The reason Mickey was able to call that so easily was because it's nothing new. It's the same talking point that's been repeated ad nauseam for years, if not decades.