i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.
and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 2:09 pm
by Ms Harmless
dprival78 wrote:i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.
and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway
it needs one more go-around of the chord structure, maybe a break in the music, a fill, something
never mind
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:08 pm
by DeeDee
I can't believe they wrote this song in 2024.
One of the best they've ever written.
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:10 pm
by Strat
i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...
I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:30 pm
by DeeDee
I'm guessing Andrew Watt has helped them a lot with the transitions. Melodically and from a song's structure point of view, this record is outstanding.
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:51 pm
by Ms Harmless
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...
I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 4:20 pm
by dprival78
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...
I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time
and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 4:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
dprival78 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...
I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time
and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys
haha yep, but it's fine
it's frustrating because it's those tiny little arrangement nuances that I used to think they did perfectly
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 12:35 am
by Strat
10/5
Fuck me.
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:12 pm
by Strat
McCready's outro solo is very J Mascis
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:36 pm
by Hatfield
I love the conversation about Upper Hand from Zane, but wished he asked a few more questions about this one. I'd love to hear Ed talk about the lyrics and how the whole thing came together.
Re: Upper Hand
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 6:53 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Edit: this time with actual link
Isolated guitar (and with it, the piano) at the end of upper hand.