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Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 24, 2024 6:12 pm
by stip
well start, damn it. I have needs.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed April 24, 2024 6:35 pm
by Ms Harmless
stip wrote:well start, damn it. I have needs.
that's what she said

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:18 pm
by DeeDee
It gets better with every listen.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri April 26, 2024 9:15 am
by Angus
I love this song so much!

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri April 26, 2024 5:57 pm
by guitar_davey
Rank the PJ slow build intros..

Upper Hand
Severed Hand
Inside Job...

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 2:06 pm
by dprival78
i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.

and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 2:09 pm
by Ms Harmless
dprival78 wrote:i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.

and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway
it needs one more go-around of the chord structure, maybe a break in the music, a fill, something

never mind

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:08 pm
by DeeDee
I can't believe they wrote this song in 2024.

One of the best they've ever written.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:10 pm
by Strat
i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:30 pm
by DeeDee
I'm guessing Andrew Watt has helped them a lot with the transitions. Melodically and from a song's structure point of view, this record is outstanding.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 3:51 pm
by Ms Harmless
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 4:20 pm
by dprival78
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time

and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat April 27, 2024 4:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
dprival78 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time

and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys
haha yep, but it's fine

it's frustrating because it's those tiny little arrangement nuances that I used to think they did perfectly

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Mon April 29, 2024 12:35 am
by Strat
10/5

Fuck me.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:12 pm
by Strat
McCready's outro solo is very J Mascis

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:36 pm
by Hatfield
I love the conversation about Upper Hand from Zane, but wished he asked a few more questions about this one. I'd love to hear Ed talk about the lyrics and how the whole thing came together.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 6:53 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Edit: this time with actual link

Isolated guitar (and with it, the piano) at the end of upper hand.

https://youtu.be/H_-M3iliZuI?si=[yt]mpeVIUhGvWAwlce2[/yt]

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:05 pm
by Buby
Fattie_Vedder wrote:Edit: this time with actual link

Isolated guitar (and with it, the piano) at the end of upper hand.

:peace:

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:34 am
by stip
how long has that piano been there?!

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:39 am
by Ms Harmless
stip wrote:how long has that piano been there?!
the whole time!