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Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 4:34 pm
by Hypnos
theplatypus wrote:I imagine Ed will struggle with this one live.
No doubt.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 4:35 pm
by harmless
I'm going to be really annoyed if they downtune any of these songs.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 6:01 pm
by pjfanman
this is probably my favourite track on the album...amazing on repeated listens
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 6:21 pm
by Monkey_Driven
pjfanman wrote:this is probably my favourite track on the album...amazing on repeated listens
I'm leaning in this direction too.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:07 pm
by Habitman
I don't think it can be over stated how amazing it is for a singer pushing 50 to deliver one of the most difficult vocal performances of his career.
Will he nail this consistently live? no way. But that is a minor negative.
The notes he hits are goosebump special.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:08 pm
by evenslow
I'd much rather him hit the notes on record so we have that document forever (and ever).
Whether he hits the notes in concert (he won't) is much less important to me.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:09 pm
by EJ
evenslow wrote:I'd much rather him hit the notes on record so we have that document forever (and ever).
Whether he hits the notes in concert (he won't) is much less important to me.
Exactly.

Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:09 pm
by Norah
evenslow wrote:I'd much rather him hit the notes on record so we have that document forever (and ever).
Whether he hits the notes in concert (he won't) is much less important to me.
Exactly.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:11 pm
by Habitman
evenslow wrote:I'd much rather him hit the notes on record so we have that document forever (and ever).
Whether he hits the notes in concert (he won't) is much less important to me.
this ^
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 7:25 pm
by harmless
Exactly.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:04 pm
by zdawg624
Sorry about that one guys.. I just call'em as I hear'em. On second listen, I cant even make it through the whole song. bah
Coach wrote:Whoever said the chorus sounds like Christina Aguilera ruined this song for me...at the moment at least.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:30 pm
by Vindicator
My disappointment in this song has almost single-handedly ruined the rest of the album for me. It was the song I was most looking forward to.
I can't get over how much I hate the chorus. I gave it like 30 listens today. It's vomit. Cringe inducing. Even my older sister said the chorus sounded corny. They ruined what could have been a good song. Even the instrumentation is nowhere near as heavy as it should have been. Instead it sounds like a weird quirky experiment. The solo is a redeeming quality, but god that chorus.
In fact as I'm typing this, "You Are" just shuffled and came on my iPOD. SEE, THIS SONG IS AWESOME. This is more what Infallible should have been.
Fuck Infallible.

Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:36 pm
by LetMeSleep
I like this track but I can see where it stumbles and falls short. You Are is a good benchmark for it I agree. Sure the chorus is popular mainstream and sounds incredibly familiar but it isn't that bad.
My main gripe is that the instrumentation didn't go far enough. Some glitchy fart distortion noises in there plus a dirtier guitar or synth part. Thinking 65 days of static or even the lips' yoshimi type of approach. Just seems a bit safe.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:36 pm
by McParadigm
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:44 pm
by Vindicator
LetMeSleep wrote:I like this track but I can see where it stumbles and falls short. You Are is a good benchmark for it I agree. Sure the chorus is popular mainstream and sounds incredibly familiar but it isn't that bad.
My main gripe is that the instrumentation didn't go far enough. Some glitchy fart distortion noises in there plus a dirtier guitar or synth part. Thinking 65 days of static or even the lips' yoshimi type of approach. Just seems a bit safe.
The melody of the chorus itself is not horrible. It just completely changes the song from this dark groovy romp, to this super corny cheesy "We Are The World" type bullshit. It's such a drastic change in tone and it doesn't match. It's like one second I'm "Aww yeah I like what I'm hearing" to "WTF is this shit" And the "Yeah Yeah Yeah's" near the end are especially vomit inducing.
There are very few PJ songs I outright dislike, this might actually be a first

Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:44 pm
by stip
this song is a LOT better than you are.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:46 pm
by Mike
stip wrote:this song is a LOT better than you are.
For a moment there I thought stip was getting mean.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:47 pm
by LetMeSleep
stip wrote:this song is a LOT better than you are.
I think you may be correct here but sonically You Are and Infallible could have been lost brothers.
I think I'm in the minority here as I love Marker and I don't feel the chorus lets the track down. I think Infallible will be similar for me too. It's just that at the moment that first line in the chorus is naggingly familiar.
Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:48 pm
by LetMeSleep
Mike wrote:stip wrote:this song is a LOT better than you are.
For a moment there I thought stip was getting mean.
Yeah Stip. Play the ball, man.

Re: Infallible
Posted: Tue October 08, 2013 8:51 pm
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:stip wrote:this song is a LOT better than you are.
I think you may be correct here but sonically You Are and Infallible could have been lost brothers.
I think I'm in the minority here as I love Marker and I don't feel the chorus lets the track down. I think Infallible will be similar for me too. It's just that at the moment that first line in the chorus is naggingly familiar.
I hear you. I see the connection.
And I agree with you re: Marker's chorus.
Infallible got a few listens today, and I really like the chorus, and think the change in tone is really important for the song.