Re: The Environment Thread
Posted: Fri November 09, 2018 11:53 pm
Bi_3 wrote:Wow. Kind looks like the cloud has an uncircumcised penis on the right there.bune wrote: That's a nice shot. Terrifying, but nice.

Bi_3 wrote:Wow. Kind looks like the cloud has an uncircumcised penis on the right there.bune wrote: That's a nice shot. Terrifying, but nice.

So who bought a ton of PGE stock the other day?SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Shares of Pacific Gas & Electric soared Friday after California's top utility regulator said his agency will help the company deal with potentially crippling liability costs from wildfires.
Stock prices soared nearly 38 percent after plunging 60 percent and losing $15 billion in valuation in the week following the Northern California wildfire that is the nation's deadliest in a century.
In an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle, Picker said his agency will soon implement a provision in a new state law that makes it easier for utilities to pass costs for past wildfires to their customers. He said additional legislation may be needed to ensure that provision applies to this year's fires.

Hooray! Now hopefully they just scrap the whole thing and work to actually shut down polluters right at the source.BurtReynolds wrote:"maybe we can tax our way out of climate change..."
Great explanation. You need to actually build the infrastructure that replaces fossil fuel consumption instead of just throwing up a tax and claiming it will all sort itself out.Angus wrote:It took surprisingly long though. They've been cutting down on public transport for years. Small villages are completely deconnected. Banks, supermarkets, ... are all gone from those small villages because of 'restructuring' and then the rich, new-leftist/greens (which is basically the same here and only lives in the cities) tell everyone "go by bike or public transport", right wing gov fully agrees for once and raises tax on fuel, because that's good for the environment and will motivate people to leave the car at home and certainly not because raising taxes to get themselves paid more is their favourite hobby. So you have a whole new lower middle class who lives on the countryside that suddenly has trouble making ends meet. And of course, protests against government and prices will attract anarchists & other leftist groups who are always in for a little party, so things get a little out of hand, police reacts strongly and the topic changes from "where do these obscene high fuel prices suddenly come from?" to "must be tough on violence". Same in France, same in Belgium.
But we're all going to pretend we're surprised that we won't vote for the traditional parties anymore and go from one extreme to the other.
How does that defeat capitalism and avenge colonialism?Green Habit wrote:Great explanation. You need to actually build the infrastructure that replaces fossil fuel consumption instead of just throwing up a tax and claiming it will all sort itself out.Angus wrote:It took surprisingly long though. They've been cutting down on public transport for years. Small villages are completely deconnected. Banks, supermarkets, ... are all gone from those small villages because of 'restructuring' and then the rich, new-leftist/greens (which is basically the same here and only lives in the cities) tell everyone "go by bike or public transport", right wing gov fully agrees for once and raises tax on fuel, because that's good for the environment and will motivate people to leave the car at home and certainly not because raising taxes to get themselves paid more is their favourite hobby. So you have a whole new lower middle class who lives on the countryside that suddenly has trouble making ends meet. And of course, protests against government and prices will attract anarchists & other leftist groups who are always in for a little party, so things get a little out of hand, police reacts strongly and the topic changes from "where do these obscene high fuel prices suddenly come from?" to "must be tough on violence". Same in France, same in Belgium.
But we're all going to pretend we're surprised that we won't vote for the traditional parties anymore and go from one extreme to the other.