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Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 2:28 pm
by Revelator
VinylGuy wrote:The last album feels like a Jerry record, specially because of the production, which i hate.
Love Voices, though...its one of the strongest tracks on the record....also, Phantom Limb is badass.
Phantom Limb is killer. I've been partial to Scalpel, too, even though yeah it sounds like something directly off Degradation Trip. Voices is great in the car. They HAVE to get another producer for the next album though, production really turned me off....

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 2:33 pm
by VinylGuy
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The last album feels like a Jerry record, specially because of the production, which i hate.
Love Voices, though...its one of the strongest tracks on the record....also, Phantom Limb is badass.
Phantom Limb is killer. I've been partial to Scalpel, too, even though yeah it sounds like something directly off Degradation Trip. Voices is great in the car. They HAVE to get another producer for the next album though, production really turned me off....
Im warming with Scalpel yeah, its a good song...even Low Ceiling is good, but the production its so awful i dont want to hear them. They should bring another guy for sure, i wasnt a fan of his previous work in BGWTB but here, its just awful.
Everything sounds so compressed and loud, and the vocal harmonies arent there, its just a loud BAAAAM after another.

I been into a huge AIC week because of the show tomorrow night, and what a great great band....Tripod might be one of the darkest albums from all times, and i think its my favorite one from them.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 3:26 pm
by Revelator
VinylGuy wrote:
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The last album feels like a Jerry record, specially because of the production, which i hate.
Love Voices, though...its one of the strongest tracks on the record....also, Phantom Limb is badass.
Phantom Limb is killer. I've been partial to Scalpel, too, even though yeah it sounds like something directly off Degradation Trip. Voices is great in the car. They HAVE to get another producer for the next album though, production really turned me off....
Im warming with Scalpel yeah, its a good song...even Low Ceiling is good, but the production its so awful i dont want to hear them. They should bring another guy for sure, i wasnt a fan of his previous work in BGWTB but here, its just awful.
Everything sounds so compressed and loud, and the vocal harmonies arent there, its just a loud BAAAAM after another.

I been into a huge AIC week because of the show tomorrow night, and what a great great band....Tripod might be one of the darkest albums from all times, and i think its my favorite one from them.
Nice, you're in for a good one, I've seen them about 4 times now with Duvall and they never disappoint. Hell even the newer songs that never really hit a chord with me on the album (like Acid Bubble or something), really come alive in a live setting--Jerry just lets loose more. I got into a huge AIC kick earlier this year before the Mad Season re-release.

Yeah I really can't say any of the new album is 'bad,' just seems very repetitive or something, like they're trying to hard sometimes to channel their old 90s sound. That coupled with the terrible production issues left me really underwhelmed. Side note though, for whatever reason I really think Breath on a Window kicks ass, even though ppl say it's a recycled version of Lessons Learned. If that's true, I def prefer Breath more cause I found LL generic as hell.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 3:36 pm
by VinylGuy
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The last album feels like a Jerry record, specially because of the production, which i hate.
Love Voices, though...its one of the strongest tracks on the record....also, Phantom Limb is badass.
Phantom Limb is killer. I've been partial to Scalpel, too, even though yeah it sounds like something directly off Degradation Trip. Voices is great in the car. They HAVE to get another producer for the next album though, production really turned me off....
Im warming with Scalpel yeah, its a good song...even Low Ceiling is good, but the production its so awful i dont want to hear them. They should bring another guy for sure, i wasnt a fan of his previous work in BGWTB but here, its just awful.
Everything sounds so compressed and loud, and the vocal harmonies arent there, its just a loud BAAAAM after another.

I been into a huge AIC week because of the show tomorrow night, and what a great great band....Tripod might be one of the darkest albums from all times, and i think its my favorite one from them.
Nice, you're in for a good one, I've seen them about 4 times now with Duvall and they never disappoint. Hell even the newer songs that never really hit a chord with me on the album (like Acid Bubble or something), really come alive in a live setting--Jerry just lets loose more. I got into a huge AIC kick earlier this year before the Mad Season re-release.

Yeah I really can't say any of the new album is 'bad,' just seems very repetitive or something, like they're trying to hard sometimes to channel their old 90s sound. That coupled with the terrible production issues left me really underwhelmed. Side note though, for whatever reason I really think Breath on a Window kicks ass, even though ppl say it's a recycled version of Lessons Learned. If that's true, I def prefer Breath more cause I found LL generic as hell.
Acid Bubble rules...and yeah BOAW sounds very similar to Lesson Learned...but they are both good.
The new album...i listened to Dirt and the new one back to back, and it surprised me on how most of the songs from TDPDH could be from Dirt..they sound very, very similar in their sound approach.
But the production ruins everything for me.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 3:57 pm
by EJ
I'm streaming to the album right now. I may have to buy it. Very surprised. The first time through a few months ago, I was pretty bored.

Any recent shows worth listening to?

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:44 pm
by VinylGuy
EJ wrote:I'm streaming to the album right now. I may have to buy it. Very surprised. The first time through a few months ago, I was pretty bored.

Any recent shows worth listening to?
Most of the pro shots from their festivals..rock in rio is the last one that has surfaced...is basically a hits show but they also play some cool songs from the last albums.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:19 pm
by VinylGuy
Layne´s vocals in Facelift were so strong...To listen to him singing like this and then the Tripod album is heartbreaking.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:30 pm
by Revelator
VinylGuy wrote:Layne´s vocals in Facelift were so strong...To listen to him singing like this and then the Tripod album is heartbreaking.
Shame In You, in particular, always felt really sad to me, like he sounded defeated. I love that song though and the outro is one of the best one in their catalog.

Sunshine has always been ridiculously underrated from Facelift.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:38 pm
by VinylGuy
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Layne´s vocals in Facelift were so strong...To listen to him singing like this and then the Tripod album is heartbreaking.
Shame In You, in particular, always felt really sad to me, like he sounded defeated. I love that song though and the outro is one of the best one in their catalog.

Sunshine has always been ridiculously underrated from Facelift.
My exact thoughts today after i listened to SIY. The lyrics are pretty sad...the music is really nice though. And those haunting vocals...

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun September 29, 2013 5:16 pm
by VinylGuy
Last night was the show, a very special and emotional one for me; not just because i have been a fan since Tripod i guess, but because i have lost a great friend of mine who was a huge AIC fan. Good Memories.

Anyway, the show was great..At first, the sound wasnt very good and i was listening more coming from the crowd than the band itself; but luckily that changed over the night.
Really good setlist, a good mix between the classic albums and the last one, although we got just one song from BGWTB..they could have played a little longer and add some songs from that album.
Let me say this; Sean and Mike are fucking gods...Sean is out of his mind. He is singing, smoking, dancing, talking with the crowd, all of this while he plays those huge fucking drums. Mike too, never stopped smiling and laughing all night. And both of them are a very very tight unit.
Duvall puts a hell of a show...i feel sorry for the guy, because Layne`s ghost is always going to be there, but he is a true frontman. Sings very well, great crowd interaction and he is a very good guitar player...he even did a cool solo, i think in Got me wrong.
As for Jerry, i loved his low key presence, told a few things between songs and just stood there and played...and its true that guy might be the best guitar player from his generation...the Nutshell solo was fucking great.
Highlight of the night: Phantom Limb...never felt so scared of music.

SETLIST

Them Bones
Dam That River
Hollow
Check My Brain
Again
Man in the Box
Got Me Wrong
Phantom Limb
Stone
No Excuses
It Ain't Like That
Nutshell
God Am
Junkhead

Encore:
Down in a Hole
Would?
Rooster

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 11:34 am
by Revelator
VinylGuy wrote:Last night was the show, a very special and emotional one for me; not just because i have been a fan since Tripod i guess, but because i have lost a great friend of mine who was a huge AIC fan. Good Memories.

Anyway, the show was great..At first, the sound wasnt very good and i was listening more coming from the crowd than the band itself; but luckily that changed over the night.
Really good setlist, a good mix between the classic albums and the last one, although we got just one song from BGWTB..they could have played a little longer and add some songs from that album.
Let me say this; Sean and Mike are fucking gods...Sean is out of his mind. He is singing, smoking, dancing, talking with the crowd, all of this while he plays those huge fucking drums. Mike too, never stopped smiling and laughing all night. And both of them are a very very tight unit.
Duvall puts a hell of a show...i feel sorry for the guy, because Layne`s ghost is always going to be there, but he is a true frontman. Sings very well, great crowd interaction and he is a very good guitar player...he even did a cool solo, i think in Got me wrong.
As for Jerry, i loved his low key presence, told a few things between songs and just stood there and played...and its true that guy might be the best guitar player from his generation...the Nutshell solo was fucking great.
Highlight of the night: Phantom Limb...never felt so scared of music.

SETLIST

Them Bones
Dam That River
Hollow
Check My Brain
Again
Man in the Box
Got Me Wrong
Phantom Limb
Stone
No Excuses
It Ain't Like That
Nutshell
God Am
Junkhead

Encore:
Down in a Hole
Would?
Rooster
That's awesome man, I knew they wouldn't disappoint. Only two new songs in this setlist and it's pretty badass that one of those is the best song from TDPDH, Phantom Limb. I definitely want to catch that song live, I'm sure it's a monster. When I saw AIC with Duvall for the first time back in 2006 or something in Baltimore, I got to meet Mike at the bar before their set. He's just like a regular dude, really down to earth and funny as hell.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 3:35 pm
by VinylGuy
Revelator wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Last night was the show, a very special and emotional one for me; not just because i have been a fan since Tripod i guess, but because i have lost a great friend of mine who was a huge AIC fan. Good Memories.

Anyway, the show was great..At first, the sound wasnt very good and i was listening more coming from the crowd than the band itself; but luckily that changed over the night.
Really good setlist, a good mix between the classic albums and the last one, although we got just one song from BGWTB..they could have played a little longer and add some songs from that album.
Let me say this; Sean and Mike are fucking gods...Sean is out of his mind. He is singing, smoking, dancing, talking with the crowd, all of this while he plays those huge fucking drums. Mike too, never stopped smiling and laughing all night. And both of them are a very very tight unit.
Duvall puts a hell of a show...i feel sorry for the guy, because Layne`s ghost is always going to be there, but he is a true frontman. Sings very well, great crowd interaction and he is a very good guitar player...he even did a cool solo, i think in Got me wrong.
As for Jerry, i loved his low key presence, told a few things between songs and just stood there and played...and its true that guy might be the best guitar player from his generation...the Nutshell solo was fucking great.
Highlight of the night: Phantom Limb...never felt so scared of music.

SETLIST

Them Bones
Dam That River
Hollow
Check My Brain
Again
Man in the Box
Got Me Wrong
Phantom Limb
Stone
No Excuses
It Ain't Like That
Nutshell
God Am
Junkhead

Encore:
Down in a Hole
Would?
Rooster
That's awesome man, I knew they wouldn't disappoint. Only two new songs in this setlist and it's pretty badass that one of those is the best song from TDPDH, Phantom Limb. I definitely want to catch that song live, I'm sure it's a monster. When I saw AIC with Duvall for the first time back in 2006 or something in Baltimore, I got to meet Mike at the bar before their set. He's just like a regular dude, really down to earth and funny as hell.
Phantom Limb was out of this world. The whole band seemed very into the songs...Jerry and Sean looking at each other; Mike was near too...William killed it. Great, great performance.
Also, God am...thanks, thanks, thanks...even if i didnt get Grind or Heaven Beside You, that song is equally awesome.

My only complaint is that the whole show felt too short. But this AIC is awesome.

By the way, i have been listening to TDPDH since then. Cant stop listening to it. ( also, downloaded a flac version, sounds better)

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu October 03, 2013 2:32 pm
by VinylGuy
Really good short interview with Jerry, discussing the new album. I love Jerry´s view on social media.

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jerry-cantr ... -interview

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 8:45 am
by Birds in Hell
It's not worth paying $185 to this just to see Alice in Chains is it?

No, don't worry, I know it's not.

But still.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 8:54 am
by Soma.
That's way the fuck overpriced, but if you don't consider Baroness and Clutch a draw card then you're doing it wrong. Also, five years ago I'd be all over seeing Placebo but the new album's lyrics and general blandness throughout prompted me to discard them. 'Tis a shame.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 9:02 am
by Birds in Hell
Oh, I'd definitely see Baroness.

I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I've seen Placebo not once but twice. Hey, it was the 90s and I went with a girl. Are you happy now? Get fucked, okay? Jesus.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 9:08 am
by Soma.
I probably would have really enjoyed seeing them back then. Are you feeling alright, bud?

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 9:10 am
by Birds in Hell
Oh, I'm good.

I've just worked on a Sunday on four hours of sleep.

So, hey.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 9:12 am
by Soma.
You'll be fine, dude. By the way I liked the new Sabbath album okay, how did it hold up for you after repeated listens?

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Sun October 06, 2013 9:30 am
by Birds in Hell
Soma. wrote:You'll be fine, dude.
I'm just joking around, I'm pretty alright.

I did do the working and lack of sleeping, though, that wasn't a joke.
Soma. wrote:By the way I liked the new Sabbath album okay, how did it hold up for you after repeated listens?
I haven't given it a spin in a while, I'll do so this soon and see how it goes.