Red Mosquito

Just ask him to produce his cell phone records. Presumably they'll show the 8-hour-long conversations that he claimed he had while she was supposedly in the hospital.

Simple Torture wrote:There's a record store right around the corner, too. Nuggets, I think it's called. Also an adult bakery.

The sign outside says Nuggets bought and sold and I always laugh when I walk by.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Phew. Thank God. Where was she?

Wonder why she told manti she was dead? and why he believed it if she was the one telling him

Rule #1 - Bitches be crazy.

After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

Plausible enough. I'm still going with gay.

Does Vegas have odds on this thing yet?

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

i've been thinking something similar from early on. lots of reasons to conceal and to lie, even if you think the relationship is real.

I'm glad the internet was still it's early stages when I was in high school. My fake "I have a girlfriend but you don't know her because she goes to a different school" girlfriend would have been even less believable.
No worries though, had a real flesh & blood girlfriend my senior year.

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online? I think about half my married friends met online and I can't think of anyone that gives a shit.

turned2black wrote:

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online? I think about half my married friends met online and I can't think of anyone that gives a shit.

but for a lot of the people who do meet online, it can still feel like people who dont wont understand, so you feel like if you say you have met up in person a few times then they wont feel as weird about the idea. shouldnt be an issue these days, but it can still be, so if the story is true on his part then i can understand the lies about having gotten together with her in person a few times.

turned2black wrote:

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online?

really?

warehouse wrote:

turned2black wrote:

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online?

really?

A quick "Google" of stats shows that about 25% of people meet their sig other through the internet these days. I don't see a stigma. I have 2 cousins that met their wives through eHarmony and I didn't even think twice about it.

I don't think its odd at all about having that internet relationship. What is odd though is calling someone he never met his girlfriend. That is glaring.

But, apparently, the guy was deeply spiritual and, if this is true, developed a relationship with his "soulmate", so he didn't feel odd about calling her his girlfriend.

But, who knows. So many details need to surface - how was his father involved with this?

turned2black wrote:

warehouse wrote:

turned2black wrote:

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online?

really?

A quick "Google" of stats shows that about 25% of people meet their sig other through the internet these days. I don't see a stigma. I have 2 cousins that met their wives through eHarmony and I didn't even think twice about it.

i think dating sites are different though

turned2black wrote:

warehouse wrote:

turned2black wrote:

Mecca wrote:After thinking and talking with some friends about this, I am guessing that it is likely that Te'o got duped. I know a married couple that met on match.com and at first were too embarrassed to admit that they met online to people who weren't immediate family. With that stigma in mind, maybe he lied about them meeting because the white lie is less awkward than the truth and doesn't really hurt anyone because in his mind, it was going to become real. Maybe not meeting in person made it easier to distance himself from the "death." Then when he finally finds out he was tricked, who would come right out and admit that? That is a huge public embarrassment. Pile on the stigma of "you only knew this person online?" and the humiliation of being fooled by someone I think is motivation enough to keep this story to yourself, live out the lie, not suffer publicly and live your life. I think that Te'o was planning on just that until deadspin brought out all these holes in the story. Everything I just said could be moot though if he comes out and admits he was in on it.

I'm sorry, but what stigma of meeting someone online?

really?

A quick "Google" of stats shows that about 25% of people meet their sig other through the internet these days. I don't see a stigma. I have 2 cousins that met their wives through eHarmony and I didn't even think twice about it.

but then you have shows like catfish on mtv showing all the people who make fake accounts online just to fuck with people, so there are a lot of stuff showing the bad side of online relationships, so the stigma still remains unfortunately

EJ wrote:I don't think its odd at all about having that internet relationship. What is odd though is calling someone he never met his girlfriend. That is glaring.

But, apparently, the guy was deeply spiritual and, if this is true, developed a relationship with his "soulmate", so he didn't feel odd about calling her his girlfriend.

But, who knows. So many details need to surface - how was his father involved with this?

could have been doing the same thing, feeling like it was a little weird that his son had a GF who he never met so he would say they had her over a time or 2

so...why didnt the father slap the shit out of his son for not bringing his g/f over the house?

warehouse wrote:so...why didnt the father slap the shit out of his son for not bringing his g/f over the house?

b/c he was in on it too

well then he's a terrible father and should be forced to have a vasectomy. your son is a stud LB at the most famous school in the country, he should be covering up multiple real g/fs, not one fake one.

warehouse wrote:well then he's a terrible father and should be forced to have a vasectomy. your son is a stud LB at the most famous school in the country, he should be covering up multiple real g/fs, not one fake one.

Vasectomies are frowned upon in the Mormon church. It's every man's duty to bring as many souls onto this earth as possible.

"We marry for eternity. We are serious about this. We become parents and bring wanted children into the world and rear and train them to righteousness. We are aghast as the reports of young people going to surgery to limit their families and the reputed number of parents who encourage this vasectomy. Remember that the coming of the Lord approaches, and some difficult-to-answer questions will be asked by a divine Judge who will be hard to satisfy with silly explanations and rationalizations. He will judge justly, you may be sure."
-- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball