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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:38 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:What's the original tracklisting you guys are talking about?
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" - aka - "Sad"
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Gods Dice"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"
That was when they first put up news about the new album or when orders were being taken, i can't recall. But thats it.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:40 pm
by KurtLeon
I'll never get the Education ending, and I'm sorry about that.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:41 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Strat wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:What's the original tracklisting you guys are talking about?
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" - aka - "Sad"
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Gods Dice"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"
That was when they first put up news about the new album or when orders were being taken, i can't recall. But thats it.
Jesus, that's really long. And putting something after "Parting Ways" is obviously a terrible call.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:42 pm
by Jorge
"Letter to the Dead" is a stupid name for "Sad". Like, in the reality where the song is framed as a literal letter to the dead... it would be a person writing to a dead person about their friend grieving about yet another dead person?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:48 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:49 pm
by digster
KurtLeon wrote:I'll never get the Education ending, and I'm sorry about that.
The four-run end to that record is kind of bizarre to me.
Soon Forget
In The Moonlight
Parting Ways
Education
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:52 pm
by evenslow
They were clearly going for
side a) fast songs
side b) slow songs
But side b) has about two too many slow songs for it to be perfect.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:52 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Strat wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:What's the original tracklisting you guys are talking about?
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" - aka - "Sad"
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Gods Dice"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"
That was when they first put up news about the new album or when orders were being taken, i can't recall. But thats it.
Jesus, that's really long. And putting something after "Parting Ways" is obviously a terrible call.
Have you not done the Binaural Deluxe edition? Ridleybradout kept Gods' Dice in the #2 slot, but it's otherwise as Strat posted. It's superb, a huge improvement on the album. I agree that Education is a shitty closer, but than I generally dislike that song (and Parting Ways, so I press stop after ItM).
I only listened to the alternate versions and outtakes. I didn't pay attention to the actual album or how it was ordered.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:53 pm
by evenslow
Basically, just make In The Moonlight and Education the B-sides they were meant to be and have the final tracklist...
"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Sad"
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Gods Dice"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"Parting Ways"
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:55 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
How many times has RM retracked Binaural? 3,347 to be exact.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:57 pm
by evenslow
Almost positive this was my very first go at it and I solved the problem so we can all stop now.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:58 pm
by Strat
Why would you do that to in the moonlight?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:58 pm
by digster
evenslow wrote:They were clearly going for
side a) fast songs
side b) slow songs
But side b) has about two too many slow songs for it to be perfect.
Yeah, I get the idea of it, I just think the power of those slow songs gets dulled a bit by stacking them one on top of the other.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:00 pm
by evenslow
Strat wrote:Why would you do that to in the moonlight?
Cuz it's good not great.
Truly great songs around it include:
Parting Ways
Sleight of Hand
Fatal
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:17 pm
by Kevin Davis
tragabigzanda wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:As my free hours to listen to albums in full become fewer, I find myself caring less and less about things like flow and sequencing. I don't know that "jarring transitions" and such are things that have ever really registered with me when listening to an album. At some point it's just a collection of tunes that either do it for you or not, know what I mean?
Have your read the Chuck Klosterman piece in which he realizes he no longer cares passionately about music? I wish I could remember the band he used as the example, but it's something along the lines of "My co-worker put on a Blink-182 song, and I didn't feel angry, or much of anything. I realized I no longer cared about music enough to "hate" a band and have negative feelings about them."
It's a great read, I wish I could remember where I saw it.
I have!
http://www.ew.com/article/2013/06/20/bo ... klosterman
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:35 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:40 am
by Kevin Davis
I can't quite claim that level of detachment yet -- I feel like in general I'm a lot more even-tempered in regards to my dislikes, but with all those arena-folk bands yelling "HEY!" every time you turn your fucking head, what's a poor boy to do?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:31 am
by chewm
evenslow wrote:Strat wrote:Why would you do that to in the moonlight?
Cuz it's good not great.
Truly great songs around it include:
Parting Ways
Sleight of Hand
Fatal
No, it's fucking great.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:32 am
by chewm
ridleybradout wrote:I really like Education at the end, I've always thought it has a 'hidden track' vibe about it.
THIS
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Binaural
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:38 am
by PHATJ
chewm wrote:ridleybradout wrote:I really like Education at the end, I've always thought it has a 'hidden track' vibe about it.
THIS
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