Red Mosquito

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Strat wrote:I will tuck that nice little nugget in the back of my head! thank you

The only condition is that you bring a growler of Pliny.

I dont think I can get a growler but i can bring 6 of them if youd like!

Strat wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Strat wrote:I will tuck that nice little nugget in the back of my head! thank you

The only condition is that you bring a growler of Pliny.

I dont think I can get a growler but i can bring 6 of them if youd like!

This is satisfactory.

Alex wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Alex wrote:i don't know why, but i'm still very excited about the prospect of a new wilco album

because you really enjoyed the last album and recognized what an improvement it was over sky blue sky and wilco the album?

it was an improvement over those two, but i wouldn't say it was a return to the heights of being there/summerteeth/YHF/AGIB. i don't think anyone would say that.

I think the last album is much closer to the quality of the being there - agib run than it is to sky blue sky and self titled.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Alex wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Alex wrote:i don't know why, but i'm still very excited about the prospect of a new wilco album

because you really enjoyed the last album and recognized what an improvement it was over sky blue sky and wilco the album?

it was an improvement over those two, but i wouldn't say it was a return to the heights of being there/summerteeth/YHF/AGIB. i don't think anyone would say that.

I think the last album is much closer to the quality of the being there - agib run than it is to sky blue sky and self titled.

i'm going to say the same thing as the post i quote but in a different way.

Sky blue skys best songs are better than art of almost and one sunday morning

The first five songs on "Sky Blue Sky" are fantastic -- the equivalent of "YHF" and "Ghost," I would say, less satisfying in a conceptual sense perhaps but equally engaged and expressive. It kind of takes a nosedive after that, though there are a few nice moments. I wish "One True Vine" and "The Thanks I Get" had made the album

Kevin Davis wrote:I wish "One True Vine" and "The Thanks I Get" had made the album

Those two are real gems.

Kevin Davis wrote:I wish "One True Vine" and "The Thanks I Get" had made the album

One True Vine was our wedding song (my wife felt uncomfortable dancing to any song over 2 minutes long).

verb_to_trust wrote:Sky blue skys best songs are better than art of almost and one sunday morning

Side With The Seeds is one of Wilco's best songs. Top 3 for sure.

i think there's a lot riding on the next album. we'll see whether TWL was an aberration in a long phase of relatively boring wilco, or was the first step toward a reinvigorated band.

"The Whole Love" feels to me like a fairly deliberate attempt to recapture with a band of well-rehearsed pros a similar creative spirit to that which the internally unstable Wilco of 2001-2004 happened upon out of a sense of wonder. I respect the effort and ultimately agree that it is a better record than its two predecessors, but I find myself compelled to play it less frequently -- whatever their weaknesses, "Sky Blue Sky" and the self-titled album possess for me some weird, undefined sense of intrigue that keeps me coming back, wondering if I'd missed something.

I hope we get a new album at some point but I wonder if the rarities and hits sets weren't kind of the band's way of putting a pin in Wilco as a creative venture for a while. I still haven't listened to the Tweedy album, though his songwriting has always been the big appeal of Wilco for me (can't imagine what else would be, as it's been the only constant), so I should really check it out...

Chris_H_2 wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Sky blue skys best songs are better than art of almost and one sunday morning

Side With The Seeds is one of Wilco's best songs. Top 3 for sure.

yeah i definitely agree with verb on that, but i much prefer twl to sbs

the trends of hand-wringing and the inability to reach consensus regarding wilco's last three albums are strikingly similar to these trends in the pearl jam community.

I just enjoy my tweedy drugged up on pain pills. You know?

Strat wrote:I just enjoy my tweedy drugged up on pain pills. You know?

me, too. i think that's the elephant in the room, strat.

Was Tweedy really writing fundamentally different kinds of songs back then, though? Seems to me that the big change has been setting-related, highlighted by the kind of complacent "groove" that comes with having a steady, well-rehearsed band that can finish each other's sentences.

only in the sense that the beatles were writing fundamentally different songs in help! compared to the white album, except reverse the chronologies

Alex wrote:the trends of hand-wringing and the inability to reach consensus regarding wilco's last three albums are strikingly similar to these trends in the pearl jam community.

Yeah, pretty much, though I like The Whole Love better than SBS or S/T.

Was it the pain pills or Jay Bennett?

And I still think they tried too hard to pigeonhole Nels Cline into a Wilco "sound." And because of that, the songs themselves continue to suffer.

God I hate songs like Hate It Here, Walkin, and You Never Know.