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Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:58 pm
by southp
cutuphalfdead wrote:Alright, this song definitely improves live.
But, as with the studio take, their are parts I really like and parts that really piss me off. They both get exaggerated live. Even though I hate Unthought Known, my favorite parts of Lightning Bolt are the parts that remind me of that song. The first 55 seconds are so are the best, and they're even better in a live setting. But then that chorus, it completely kills the song. It's like they're building up this really fun, semi interesting as far as modern pearl jam goes, song and then it just completely falls back into this stupid, generic chorus. Just awful.
I feel mostly the same as you, and agree that the live version improves some things. Unlike your comment, I find the chorus is better live because you can let the lyric just dissolve into the song and it doesn't come off so literal. It seems like old Ed would've found a darker twist to that chorus, but either way it doesn't totally kill the song for me... just drags it down one notch.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 5:59 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:harmless wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Alright, this song definitely improves live.
cutuphalfdead wrote:Just awful.
The parts I like are much better, but it just contrasts that much more with the parts that I hate.
Yeah, I'm just having fun. You apparently like the part that a lot of people dislike the most... the first verse?
The first 55 seconds are my favorite.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 6:00 pm
by Norah
The verses on this song are a prime example of bad lyrics that don't bother me. The music is good enough that I don't care, and I just see the vocals as another musical element and ignore the actual words. I can't do that in the chorus because the music sucks too.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 6:02 pm
by Thejambi
I was good with the lyrics till my wife harped on them.
"These metaphors are out of control"
I'm starting to agree.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:07 pm
by stip
your wife is wrong. so is chud, but that is to be expected. Other than the first verse and the chorus this is all top notch, lyrically.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:15 pm
by BurtReynolds
BO'B absolutely murders this song. I could tolerate it as another derivative PJ epic buildup song, but those goddamn keys in the second verse... holy fuck. And the whole point of the song is to get to the big finish at the end, so what does that fucker do? FADE OUT! of course!
perfect.
And I haven't even mentioned the wawawa laser shit.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:22 pm
by stip
the fade out is second only to the life wasted fadeout in terms of sins against pearl jam.
It might be worse .
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:22 pm
by stip
the piano in the second verse is pretty similar to the fixer's bridge. I would have expected you to love it
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:23 pm
by BurtReynolds
stip wrote:the piano in the second verse is pretty similar to the fixer's bridge. I would have expected you to love it
i know, right!?
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:25 pm
by stip
damn you, Brendan O'Brien!
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:27 pm
by Thejambi
The RKO thing is making me sour.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:31 pm
by stip
the what?
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:36 pm
by Thejambi
stip wrote:the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:36 pm
by warehouse
stip wrote:the what?
he's not digging ed's perverted metaphors
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:39 pm
by Thejambi
warehouse wrote:stip wrote:the what?
he's not digging ed's perverted metaphors
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:42 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stip wrote:the fade out is second only to the life wasted fadeout in terms of sins against pearl jam.
It might be worse .
Seeing and hearing how great the ending of the song was last night really makes me hate the fade
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 7:44 pm
by Thejambi
I'd be fine with the fade if it started 20 seconds later.
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 8:01 pm
by stip
Thejambi wrote:stip wrote:the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
it's not just a 'furry thing' liner notes thing?
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 8:08 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Thejambi wrote:stip wrote:the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
Maybe ed is a wrestling fan
Re: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat October 26, 2013 8:09 pm
by Thejambi
stip wrote:Thejambi wrote:stip wrote:the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
it's not just a 'furry thing' liner notes thing?
I hear him clear as day on the studio cut. RKO