Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

[macphisto]

The science is not settled and you should not trust the science.

[Ms Harmless]

I made it a point to say gender is fluid and should be respected. Even conceded that we differ on what science says and said fine (even though you're disagreeing). I was respectful to you the the whole time. I wonder if your experience has led you to a conclusion based only on feelings. And yes, I realize how this reads, so let me acknowledge that I don't know a damn thing about you or your life, but that's how it comes across to a general audience.

no, that's how it comes across to you

It's a pretty liberal group here (mach aside), and I don't see many agreeing.

I don't think "pretty liberal" inevitably results in respect for trans people; that said, I'm satisfied that some people "agree" with the things I ask them to enough that I feel respected; if you want to see more, you can follow any of my socials and see what a "general audience" can look like outside RM

[The Argonaut]

I agree with her. Most of us do. This thread is just to much to bear

*too

ugh. This thread is to much too bare. Happy?

[tree_]

You’re trying to change all the rules, flip the tables on us. We all (except macphisto) love, respect and accept you and support your way of life. We just ask you respect our realities too… and not slap us

[Ms Harmless]

You’re trying to change all the rules, flip the tables on us. We all (except macphisto) love, respect and accept you and support your way of life. We just ask you respect our realities too.

your reality in which I'm wrong about how I, and people like me, can be best respected? nah, you're fine

[Ms Harmless]

there are no rules

there is no spoon

[Rob]

I made it a point to say gender is fluid and should be respected. Even conceded that we differ on what science says and said fine (even though you're disagreeing). I was respectful to you the the whole time. I wonder if your experience has led you to a conclusion based only on feelings. And yes, I realize how this reads, so let me acknowledge that I don't know a damn thing about you or your life, but that's how it comes across to a general audience.

no, that's how it comes across to you

It's a pretty liberal group here (mach aside), and I don't see many agreeing.

I don't think "pretty liberal" inevitably results in respect for trans people; that said, I'm satisfied that some people "agree" with the things I ask them to enough that I feel respected; if you want to see more, you can follow any of my socials and see what a "general audience" can look like outside RM

I think I've shown you respect in this thread. I have no issue with you. But you want us to respect your perspective while telling us (me) that ours is founded on ignorance (to paraphrase).

[tree_]

We can disagree respectfully. That’s the RMerican way.

[Ms Harmless]

I made it a point to say gender is fluid and should be respected. Even conceded that we differ on what science says and said fine (even though you're disagreeing). I was respectful to you the the whole time. I wonder if your experience has led you to a conclusion based only on feelings. And yes, I realize how this reads, so let me acknowledge that I don't know a damn thing about you or your life, but that's how it comes across to a general audience.

no, that's how it comes across to you

It's a pretty liberal group here (mach aside), and I don't see many agreeing.

I don't think "pretty liberal" inevitably results in respect for trans people; that said, I'm satisfied that some people "agree" with the things I ask them to enough that I feel respected; if you want to see more, you can follow any of my socials and see what a "general audience" can look like outside RM

I think I've shown you respect in this thread. I have no issue with you. But you want us to respect your perspective while telling us (me) that ours is founded on ignorance (to paraphrase).

you've shown me civility

[Ms Harmless]

for what it's worth, I do appreciate that

[B]

We can disagree respectfully. That’s the RMerican way.

Since the fuck when?

[Rob]

for what it's worth, I do appreciate that

Good place to end, have a nice night

[macphisto]

You’re trying to change all the rules, flip the tables on us. We all (except macphisto) love, respect and accept you and support your way of life. We just ask you respect our realities too… and not slap us

Why would you throw me under the bus like that? I’m one of the most loving and accepting people going.

[tree_]

You’re trying to change all the rules, flip the tables on us. We all (except macphisto) love, respect and accept you and support your way of life. We just ask you respect our realities too… and not slap us

Why would you throw me under the bus like that? I’m one of the most loving and accepting people going.

Did you ever tell phatj I said “hi”?

[Ms Harmless]

I agree with her. Most of us do. This thread is just to much to bear

I wanted to acknowledge this, thanks

[macphisto]

You’re trying to change all the rules, flip the tables on us. We all (except macphisto) love, respect and accept you and support your way of life. We just ask you respect our realities too… and not slap us

Why would you throw me under the bus like that? I’m one of the most loving and accepting people going.

Did you ever tell phatj I said “hi”?

It’s still pending because our plans fell through. I haven’t forgotten.

[tree_]

I forgive you

[macphisto]

Thanks bro.

[macphisto]

[epilogue]

science didn't appear in the big bang; humans needed it, so we created it

We learned it. And yes, it evolves. Still, you're talking solely about gender, which I've already acknowledged is fluid (which is why they know how to help you). Do you think there is no such thing as a biological male or female? Is it all just a grey area to science?

Here's a thread from a biologist. Perhaps this helps.