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Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 1:05 pm
by VinylGuy
i liked In Lieu Of Failure, but it also felt like Billy trying hard to sound like 1996. He even talks a bit of that in the podcast.

Havent listened to that single yet....but im enjoying the podcast a lot, specially when he talks about older songs. Really cool even if Billy is always so fucking dense.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 11:11 pm
by Higgs
Sitting on the plane getting ready for take-off. Just had the exit row speech and it was the worst, most monotone delivery I'd ever heard. No way did anyone understand what that stewardess said. Hope we don't crash as looking at my fellow exit rowers I fear we would be fucked!

Pressed play on track 1 of Pisces Iscariot. Let's see where this takes me.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue April 25, 2023 2:49 am
by Ello Sailor
How'd you get on, Higgsy?

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 3:29 pm
by VinylGuy
Loving Billy talking about GLOW in the podcast and wow, did they played a remixed version of it? sounds awesome.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 4:29 pm
by Higgs
Ello Sailor wrote:How'd you get on, Higgsy?
Weird flight, but that's a story for another thread.

I already mentioned my earlier runs through Gish (great) and Siamese Dream (fucking excellent) and I did indeed listen through Pisces Iscariot and MCatIS on my travels.

Pisces Iscariot is a bit of a beast actually. I didn't realise it wasn't an actual studio album until writing this post. Makes sense though as the production is a bit up and down. Anyways, enjoyed.

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness though. Wow. I have def listened through this before, enough that I have strong feelings that the opening tracks "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" into "Tonight, Tonight" simply must be played together as one, always. And Jimmy Chamberlain is a fucking beast. So good.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Wed April 26, 2023 4:34 pm
by VinylGuy
Im listening to Mellon Collie right now...currently on Porcelina...such a beautiful song.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 1:49 pm
by joostone
Im listening to ATUM III now... Pfft, what a drag. Act I and act II were already bland and boring. Some songs are barely listenable. Lyrics are absolutely terrible. There are only a handfull of nice riffs here. Three acts. 33 songs. None of which adds anything worthwhile to their catalog.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 3:23 pm
by Ello Sailor
joostone wrote:There are only a handfull of nice riffs here.
If you're expecting a riff-fest, you're gonna have a bad time. That hasn't been where Billy's at for years. Most of the time it's about aping his 80's heroes these days.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 5:19 pm
by VinylGuy
been listening to the podcast a lot, and Billy is hinting about a new album already in the vein of Siamese Dream.

I do want to listen more carefully to Cyr and Autm, now thats been released in full. I think i can make a very strong 10 songs list from Atum.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 2:22 am
by Ello Sailor
I really like Act 3. Tapers off a little towards the end, but there are some big hitters on here.

"Cenotaph" is probably my fav. song of theirs since Machina. It's absolutely stunning. God damn.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 2:27 am
by VinylGuy
yeah, its good and i agree that at the end it becomes a little boring, but overall there is enough stuff here to come back.

I also diving deep into Cyr, The Colour Of Love is a great song.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 2:37 am
by Ello Sailor
That's a good one. I also love "Anno Satana", "Schaudenfreud", "Save Your Tears", "Haunted" and "The Hidden Sun". There are a bunch of killer melodies on Cyr. Great headphones listen.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 12:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
I'd probably like some of this Atum stuff if someone besides Corgan was singing. He's just awful.

Or just delete the vocals altogether.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 1:27 am
by VinylGuy
Been into a huge SP moment. Act III and Cyr are the ones I’m paying attention to but I’m also listening to Adore again. Damn what a beauty. I remember when I got it in 98, my first pumpkin cd.

Also been listening to a podcast called smashing podkast; the zeitgeist and teargarden episodes were they dive deep into those eras.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 1:39 am
by Ello Sailor
So glad you came back around on Cyr. There's the odd track that still hasn't clicked for me, like "Confessions.." and "Dulcet", but most of it has grown on me massively.

ATUM has been kicking my ass. It's a lot to take in, but I'm so impressed with it overall.

Adore is obviously a masterpiece. I was back hooked on "Daphne Descends" just the other day. Unreal song.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 1:50 am
by Rangi Guy
So aparently someone had the ATUM files about 6 months before it got released - Billy paid out a ransom

https://loudwire.com/billy-corgan-paid- ... m-leaking/

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 1:54 am
by Ello Sailor
I'm surprised he didn't send one of his wrestlers to powerbomb the punk.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 1:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Ello Sailor wrote:So glad you came back around on Cyr. There's the odd track that still hasn't clicked for me, like "Confessions.." and "Dulcet", but most of it has grown on me massively.

ATUM has been kicking my ass. It's a lot to take in, but I'm so impressed with it overall.

Adore is obviously a masterpiece. I was back hooked on "Daphne Descends" just the other day. Unreal song.
i just listened to DD yesterday and damn is so good. So ethereal almost dreamy.

This podcast is called Smashing Pumpkast, and they dive into all the different eras of the band, and its pretty cool. Im going trough those singles after Zeitgeist like FOL, GLOW, Superchrist and some other stuff i didnt know like a leaked song called Strenght In Numbers that feels like a lost song from 1996.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
SP and Interpol are coming to Huntsville and I’m leaning toward going.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 11:43 pm
by Ello Sailor
You should definitely go. They've been sounding great, and I'm pretty sure Interpol still rip live, too.