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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 5:19 am
by Bammer
Birds in Hell wrote:
Bammer wrote:Is this album going to feature Get It Back and Of The Earth?

If not, why not?
Get It Back has already been released, that seems like a pretty good reason.
I just realized I never purchased the single on iTunes

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 10:11 am
by Higgs
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:Of the Earth is much better if you don't hear it.
:lol:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 2:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Matters wrote:
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bammer wrote:Is this album going to feature Get It Back and Of The Earth?

If not, why not?
The same reason Cold Confession or Let it Ride won’t be on it. They’re old songs from different sessions.
Pendelum was from backspacer sessions.
Parting Ways from Yield.
Of the Girl and Thin Air also from Yield. Parting Ways from No Code as well as Yield. Still I highly doubt Cold Confession or Let it Ride are on the next one.
Most of the songs written during one album session and put on another album were the next album. CC and LiR were from the ST sessions if I'm not mistaken? That would be 4 albums and 15+ years later. I don't think they will make it. Same with Of the Earth, but just because that is a terrible song.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 2:44 pm
by Chris_H_2
from this point forward, pearl jam should never release another album again, but should just play what would have been on those albums live. that way people would confuse those songs for being good.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 2:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
Chris_H_2 wrote:from this point forward, pearl jam should never release another album again, but should just play what would have been on those albums live. that way people would confuse those songs for being good.
In all honesty, a Time Fades Away approach might be a great look for modern Pearl Jam

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon September 11, 2023 3:02 pm
by Bammer
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Matters wrote:
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bammer wrote:Is this album going to feature Get It Back and Of The Earth?

If not, why not?
The same reason Cold Confession or Let it Ride won’t be on it. They’re old songs from different sessions.
Pendelum was from backspacer sessions.
Parting Ways from Yield.
Of the Girl and Thin Air also from Yield. Parting Ways from No Code as well as Yield. Still I highly doubt Cold Confession or Let it Ride are on the next one.
Most of the songs written during one album session and put on another album were the next album. CC and LiR were from the ST sessions if I'm not mistaken? That would be 4 albums and 15+ years later. I don't think they will make it. Same with Of the Earth, but just because that is a terrible song.
My original post about these two songs is getting way more follow up than I expected.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 1:27 am
by Strat
Neil putting ordinary people on an album like 20 years later!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:13 am
by Got Some
the drum sound on the new Rolling Stone song has me worried re: andrew Watt.

When was the last time the drums sounded good on a PJ album.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:19 am
by bodysnatcher
Riot Act

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:10 am
by WtOB?
drums sound good on gigaton you n00bs.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 11:04 am
by tragabigzanda
I actually think they sound great on Backspacer, very very crisp and snappy

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 11:21 am
by wease
Got Some wrote:the drum sound on the new Rolling Stone song has me worried re: andrew Watt.

When was the last time the drums sounded good on a PJ album.
Superunknown

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 12:30 pm
by 96583UP
Pearl Jam: from jack irons to pro tools basic

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 1:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
96583UP wrote:Pearl Jam: from jack irons to pro tools basic
Those drum sounds on Earthling really are stock samples from like 2008

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 2:27 pm
by Strat
How has it been working with Andrew Watt?

He brings this very positive energy and knows how to get really good sounds. At the same time, his energy kind of kicked us in our asses a little bit. He would be like ‘Come on, dude,’ you know? He is kind of yelling and jumping up and down a lot and being happy. He’s a fan, but he has great structure ideas, great sound ideas, and song ideas. I’m so excited about what he did with us.

In what sense?

The record’s gonna have some great examples of Matt Cameron’s drumming that just blew my mind. He took it up about 10 notches for this new record, and it really is because of Andrew’s enthusiasm, and, again, him jumping up and down and saying ‘Try it again!’ and then saying ‘Oh, we got it!’ and on to the next thing. He pushed us to play as best as we could. It’s hard for us to listen to other people because we have so many ideas ourselves.

What was the last time someone dared to do that?

It’s been a long time. Probably Brendan (O’Brien).

The first or second string of albums with him?

I would say first and second time. I mean, Brendan I love, and we’ve done so many amazing records with him. Andrew is part of this new generation of guys that know exactly what they want to hear. Brendan was that way too. A great producer has an overall vision of what your band can be that maybe you don’t see. Andrew has that in spades. He wants us to sound like the energy of the early days, with music that is of the present. I know I keep saying it, but he kicked our asses in the greatest way possible.

Did you have any material ready to go or did you write in the studio?

We wrote right on the spot.

Have you all ever worked like that before?

I don’t know if that’s ever happened. We’ll always get together before [the studio] and work on demos with our friends. Richard Stuverud will do stuff with Jeff. I’ll use Mike Musburger. Then we’ll bring them into the main band and get feedback: ‘I like this’ or ‘I’m not responding to this.’ But we always come in with way too much stuff, which is a good problem to have. This time, we brought nothing in. It was intriguing, but a bit scary.

Were you anxious about changing up the way you’ve been doing this for so many years?

There was a little bit of anxiety but also, I feel like we’re at a point in our career where we can take chances and not do the same thing. I think we have a mindset of being open to that. Andrew told us not to bring any of our stuff, except for Matt’s drums. Andrew, or Brendan for that matter, knows exactly what each amp sounds like and what they’re gonna do. I don’t know that until I’m doing it. I just know what I like to hear.
https://www.spin.com/2023/09/mike-mccre ... interview/

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 2:50 pm
by Farmer John
Strat wrote:
How has it been working with Andrew Watt?

He brings this very positive energy and knows how to get really good sounds. At the same time, his energy kind of kicked us in our asses a little bit. He would be like ‘Come on, dude,’ you know? He is kind of yelling and jumping up and down a lot and being happy. He’s a fan, but he has great structure ideas, great sound ideas, and song ideas. I’m so excited about what he did with us.

In what sense?

The record’s gonna have some great examples of Matt Cameron’s drumming that just blew my mind. He took it up about 10 notches for this new record, and it really is because of Andrew’s enthusiasm, and, again, him jumping up and down and saying ‘Try it again!’ and then saying ‘Oh, we got it!’ and on to the next thing. He pushed us to play as best as we could. It’s hard for us to listen to other people because we have so many ideas ourselves.

What was the last time someone dared to do that?

It’s been a long time. Probably Brendan (O’Brien).

The first or second string of albums with him?

I would say first and second time. I mean, Brendan I love, and we’ve done so many amazing records with him. Andrew is part of this new generation of guys that know exactly what they want to hear. Brendan was that way too. A great producer has an overall vision of what your band can be that maybe you don’t see. Andrew has that in spades. He wants us to sound like the energy of the early days, with music that is of the present. I know I keep saying it, but he kicked our asses in the greatest way possible.

Did you have any material ready to go or did you write in the studio?

We wrote right on the spot.

Have you all ever worked like that before?

I don’t know if that’s ever happened. We’ll always get together before [the studio] and work on demos with our friends. Richard Stuverud will do stuff with Jeff. I’ll use Mike Musburger. Then we’ll bring them into the main band and get feedback: ‘I like this’ or ‘I’m not responding to this.’ But we always come in with way too much stuff, which is a good problem to have. This time, we brought nothing in. It was intriguing, but a bit scary.

Were you anxious about changing up the way you’ve been doing this for so many years?

There was a little bit of anxiety but also, I feel like we’re at a point in our career where we can take chances and not do the same thing. I think we have a mindset of being open to that. Andrew told us not to bring any of our stuff, except for Matt’s drums. Andrew, or Brendan for that matter, knows exactly what each amp sounds like and what they’re gonna do. I don’t know that until I’m doing it. I just know what I like to hear.
https://www.spin.com/2023/09/mike-mccre ... interview/
This all sounds great from a songwriting and performance perspective. I'm just worried how the final product is going to come out sounding based on everything else I've heard.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 2:52 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Very cool for the band to try a completely new approach this late into their career.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 2:52 pm
by Chris_H_2
different = good

weird = good

eddie puttin' a lil' fixin' on it = bad

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 2:59 pm
by Strat
one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:11 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
Which record?