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Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Mon July 07, 2025 11:17 pm
by given2trade
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:I dunno. Death to Hamas seems ok!
You’re just a Jew who supports genocide.
FTFY

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Mon July 07, 2025 11:33 pm
by Bi_3
given2trade wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:I dunno. Death to Hamas seems ok!
You’re just a Jew who supports genocide.
FTFY
:thumbsup:

Edit: I’m something of an anti-Hamas person myself

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 8:34 am
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:I dunno. Death to Hamas seems ok!
You’re just a Jew who supports genocide.
FTFY
:thumbsup:

Edit: I’m something of an anti-Hamas person myself
More conflating Hamas and Gazans when it suits your position.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 10:01 am
by Bi_3
spike wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
given2trade wrote:I dunno. Death to Hamas seems ok!
You’re just a Jew who supports genocide.
FTFY
:thumbsup:

Edit: I’m something of an anti-Hamas person myself
More conflating Hamas and Gazans when it suits your position.
I am not the UN, but if you know of a way for the IDF to tell the difference, please share it

Really though, anti-Hamas is pro-Gazan

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 12:30 pm
by lvc
I do agree that taking a whole-picture view of the legitimately atrocious plight of an ordinary Gazan right now, you have to acknowledge that Hamas made the first strike against Israel knowing full well the danger it would put ordinary Gazans in to be caught in the crossfire. I'm open to hearing how Israel may be overstepping in their retaliation, but only from someone who can admit that Hamas overstepped first by provoking conflict.

It is truly the most mind-bending experience to see how trendy it has become to be pro-Hamas as if that's some kind of human rights stand.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 1:09 pm
by tree_
lvc wrote:I do agree that taking a whole-picture view of the legitimately atrocious plight of an ordinary Gazan right now, you have to acknowledge that Hamas made the first strike against Israel knowing full well the danger it would put ordinary Gazans in to be caught in the crossfire. I'm open to hearing how Israel may be overstepping in their retaliation, but only from someone who can admit that Hamas overstepped first by provoking conflict.

It is truly the most mind-bending experience to see how trendy it has become to be pro-Hamas as if that's some kind of human rights stand.
Yup

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 2:33 pm
by given2trade
lvc wrote:I do agree that taking a whole-picture view of the legitimately atrocious plight of an ordinary Gazan right now, you have to acknowledge that Hamas made the first strike against Israel knowing full well the danger it would put ordinary Gazans in to be caught in the crossfire. I'm open to hearing how Israel may be overstepping in their retaliation, but only from someone who can admit that Hamas overstepped first by provoking conflict.

It is truly the most mind-bending experience to see how trendy it has become to be pro-Hamas as if that's some kind of human rights stand.
Exactly.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 9:58 pm
by Bi_3
Stomach churning report on the Gazan’s acts of sexual violence on 07 October.

Legit trigger warning: https://x.com/adl/status/1942694599442526247

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Tue July 08, 2025 11:13 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
lvc wrote:I do agree that taking a whole-picture view of the legitimately atrocious plight of an ordinary Gazan right now, you have to acknowledge that Hamas made the first strike against Israel knowing full well the danger it would put ordinary Gazans in to be caught in the crossfire. I'm open to hearing how Israel may be overstepping in their retaliation, but only from someone who can admit that Hamas overstepped first by provoking conflict.

It is truly the most mind-bending experience to see how trendy it has become to be pro-Hamas as if that's some kind of human rights stand.
Thanks for sharing this.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 12:11 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Bi_3 wrote:Stomach churning report on the Gazan’s acts of sexual violence on 07 October.

Legit trigger warning: https://x.com/adl/status/1942694599442526247
Do you mean Hamas?

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 12:35 am
by spike
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Stomach churning report on the Gazan’s acts of sexual violence on 07 October.

Legit trigger warning: https://x.com/adl/status/1942694599442526247
Do you mean Hamas?
He refuses to differentiate.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 12:37 am
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Stomach churning report on the Gazan’s acts of sexual violence on 07 October.

Legit trigger warning: https://x.com/adl/status/1942694599442526247
Do you mean Hamas?
Palestinian civilians participated alongside Hamas and IJ in the attacks:

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/fil ... -crp-3.pdf

the report linked above does focus on Hamas and their systemic use of sexual violence, so I will edit the post if you want

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 12:43 am
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Stomach churning report on the Gazan’s acts of sexual violence on 07 October.

Legit trigger warning: https://x.com/adl/status/1942694599442526247
Do you mean Hamas?
Palestinian civilians participated alongside Hamas and IJ in the attacks:

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/fil ... -crp-3.pdf

the report linked above does focus on Hamas and their systemic use of sexual violence, so I will edit the post if you want
I mean, of course there are assholes in Gaza like anywhere. Maybe omit “the” before Gazan’s so it sounds less like a national stance.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 12:52 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Do we really trust news reports anymore?

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 1:04 am
by given2trade
Yah, news probably lied about Hamas invading Israel and raping, killing, and kidnapping like 1200 people.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 2:03 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
given2trade wrote:Yah, news probably lied about Hamas invading Israel and raping, killing, and kidnapping like 1200 people.
Depends on which newspaper you read.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 2:04 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Are you still in SD?

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 2:15 am
by given2trade
Why do you want to know? Are still 13?

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 2:20 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
given2trade wrote:Why do you want to know? Are still 13?
Nope 15 now. I go there a few times a year for work. Cool city good vibes congrats.

Re: Israel & Palestine

Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 2:33 am
by Ello Sailor
Everyone sucks here.

INTO THE SUN, as the late BurtReynolds would say.