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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 10:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
All sorts of little things trickling out this evening: Giuliani helped push Yovanovich out, and Sens. Johnson, Portman, and Kirk were on board; Volker warned Giuliani he was wrong on Biden; and FEC Chair Weintraub takes a public dig at those accepting elections support from other countries...
And the top headline everywhere but Fox is still “Trump publicly asks Ukraine and China to interfere in elections.”
I’m actually starting to think this really is the beginning of the end.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 10:57 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:I assume Mike Pence will have to vow to only communicate with Nikki Haley via crowded room or WebEx though
This was actually really good.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 10:58 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:Huh go figure
Oooh. That’s pretty damning.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 11:12 pm
by Norah
wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Huh go figure
Oooh. That’s pretty damning.
From the NYT article on this:
After speaking with Mr. Trump, Mr. Sondland texted back that there was no quid pro quo, adding, “I suggest we stop the back and forth by text.”
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 11:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
The hits keep on coming
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 11:34 pm
by tragabigzanda
The idea behind the statement was to break the Ukrainians of their habit of promising American diplomats and leaders behind closed doors that they would look into matters and never follow through.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 11:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
tragabigzanda wrote:The idea behind the statement was to break the Ukrainians of their habit of promising American diplomats and leaders behind closed doors that they would look into matters and never follow through.
It's always good to create a paper trail before you do really bad shit. Are these guys really this stupid?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu October 03, 2019 11:58 pm
by Simple Torture
verb_to_trust wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:The idea behind the statement was to break the Ukrainians of their habit of promising American diplomats and leaders behind closed doors that they would look into matters and never follow through.
It's always good to create a paper trail before you do really bad shit. Are these guys really this stupid?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 12:29 am
by verb_to_trust
Trump told Xi he'd be quiet on Hong Kong after bringing up Biden and Warren during their secret server conversation? I thought this was about corruption in Ukraine?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 1:01 am
by tragabigzanda
Rick Perry’s out as energy secretary
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 1:30 am
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 1:39 am
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
Pay up.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 2:40 am
by tragabigzanda
Anyone know what the long term electoral operatives are saying at this point? Rove, Gingrich, Bannon, etc? I’d be curious to get some sound bites from those sorts of people right now.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 2:44 am
by BurtReynolds
I can't imagine Bannon caring about any of this. Rove probably does, but he's barely regarded in Trump's party. Gingrich falls somewhere in the middle.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 3:28 am
by verb_to_trust
tragabigzanda wrote:Rick Perry’s out as energy secretary
Wasn't he over there talking to Ukraine with Pence?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 3:52 am
by tragabigzanda
verb_to_trust wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Rick Perry’s out as energy secretary
Wasn't he over there talking to Ukraine with Pence?
Yep.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 12:19 pm
by tragabigzanda
So if the Ukraine funds were appropriated by Congress, do we know which committee drafted the appropriations bill?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 12:42 pm
by dimejinky99
Someone take the phone away from him
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 1:17 pm
by bune
He wants to be impeached. He thinks it's the best strategy to getting re-elected. He might be right.
sounds right to me.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 04, 2019 1:20 pm
by Norah
dimejinky99 wrote:Someone take the phone away from him
I'm a people person!