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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 19, 2022 4:21 am
by spike
competing viruses

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 19, 2022 5:14 am
by simple schoolboy
spike wrote:competing viruses
Maybe?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 19, 2022 11:32 am
by Bi_3

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 19, 2022 12:54 pm
by spike
Oh, because he intends to run in 2024. How convenient.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 21, 2022 10:33 pm
by simple schoolboy
Apparently we've learned nothing about the risk/reward trade off in gain of function research.
To find out why, Moss and his colleagues swapped dozens of clade 2 genes, one at a time, into clade 1 virus, hoping to see it become less deadly, but with no luck so far. Now, they are planning to try the opposite, endowing clade 2 virus with genes from its deadlier relative.
https://www.science.org/content/article ... GQ.twitter

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Sun September 25, 2022 2:51 pm
by Bi_3
FDA vaccine adviser warns healthy young people should NOT get new COVID booster: Says it's 'unfair to make them take a risk' after data suggested shot was not as effective as first batch:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... oster.html


Original: CDC Oversells the ‘Bivalent’ Covid Shot

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-overse ... 1663793472

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Sun September 25, 2022 3:36 pm
by spike
Will Bammer gripe about this bump?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Sun September 25, 2022 10:10 pm
by B
spike wrote:Will Bammer gripe about this bump?
He should. The interviews in those links are 3 weeks old.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Sun September 25, 2022 10:12 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
My sister has Covid. Hopefully it goes away in 5 days.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 11:33 am
by Bi_3
B wrote:
spike wrote:Will Bammer gripe about this bump?
He should. The interviews in those links are 3 weeks old.

What are your thoughts on the mention of the risk vs benefit to young people? Seems like the mention of any risk originating from the vaccine has always been talked around in the media.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 12:02 pm
by B
The lack of human trials prior to licencing was a horrible president to set, but as is, it's hard to argue that the risks aren't low enough for, at least, a permissive recommendation. Like, if you want this vaccine, you and your doctor can decide.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 12:22 pm
by Peeps
B wrote:The lack of human trials prior to licencing was a horrible president to set, but as is, it's hard to argue that the risks aren't low enough for, at least, a permissive recommendation. Like, if you want this vaccine, you and your doctor can decide.

precedent you fool

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 12:55 pm
by B
:( I needed spellcheck.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 1:45 pm
by Bammer
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:My sister has Covid. Hopefully it goes away in 5 days.
As does my SIL. Hope she tests - soon.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 6:03 pm
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:The lack of human trials prior to licencing was a horrible president to set, but as is, it's hard to argue that the risks aren't low enough for, at least, a permissive recommendation. Like, if you want this vaccine, you and your doctor can decide.
California is working on passing a law so you can snitch on your doctor for providing 'disinformation' if you disagree with their assessment. Then they run the risk of their license getting pulled.

Of course there's no objective criteria for any of this, so the process is the punishment. What doctor would run the risk of not defaulting to vaccines for everyone?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 6:28 pm
by B
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:The lack of human trials prior to licencing was a horrible president to set, but as is, it's hard to argue that the risks aren't low enough for, at least, a permissive recommendation. Like, if you want this vaccine, you and your doctor can decide.
California is working on passing a law so you can snitch on your doctor for providing 'disinformation' if you disagree with their assessment. Then they run the risk of their license getting pulled.

Of course there's no objective criteria for any of this, so the process is the punishment. What doctor would run the risk of not defaulting to vaccines for everyone?
How could the Medical Board take your license for recommending vaccines that they, themselves endorse?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 9:34 pm
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:The lack of human trials prior to licencing was a horrible president to set, but as is, it's hard to argue that the risks aren't low enough for, at least, a permissive recommendation. Like, if you want this vaccine, you and your doctor can decide.
California is working on passing a law so you can snitch on your doctor for providing 'disinformation' if you disagree with their assessment. Then they run the risk of their license getting pulled.

Of course there's no objective criteria for any of this, so the process is the punishment. What doctor would run the risk of not defaulting to vaccines for everyone?
How could the Medical Board take your license for recommending vaccines that they, themselves endorse?
Deciding between yourself and your doctor allows the possibility that they might recommend against it, correct?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 10:09 pm
by B
Mmm. .. I don't understand what you're asking.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 10:34 pm
by Rangi Guy
The lass who takes our kids to school and does pick-up etc has come down with Covid, so now I'm having to fit all that around my workday this week

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 11:00 pm
by Peeps
Rangi Guy wrote:The lass who takes our kids to school and does pick-up etc has come down with Covid, so now I'm having to fit all that around my workday this week

Ground your kids from doing anything but housework for a week