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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:22 pm
by harmless
Dugg wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dugg wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing Sigur Ros in less than a week. I don't care about any of this.
There's probably people on the Sigur Rios boards saying, "I'm seeing Sigur Rios on Monday but I just don't care after listening to Sirens!" :lol:
I doubt it, and I like Sirens.
When sarcasm fails on the Interwebs, it fails hard.
Haha... oops.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:22 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Dugg wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dugg wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing Sigur Ros in less than a week. I don't care about any of this.
There's probably people on the Sigur Rios boards saying, "I'm seeing Sigur Rios on Monday but I just don't care after listening to Sirens!" :lol:
I doubt it, and I like Sirens.
When sarcasm fails on the Interwebs, it fails hard.
:arrow:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:26 pm
by Habitman
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:I also kinda cringe during the "but all things change" part when his voice cracks.
I :heartbeat: those lines. Because it's something he rarely does it really draws attention but without it that section would start feeling repetitive.
I always cringe when singers reach too far beyond their range and strain I guess, it's not just Ed. I hate when Patterson Hood tries to sing falsetto too.
Yeah it's not technically great - however, he's in far better form on this record than Backspacer and without the annoying flourishes.
I find it to be a highlight.
This falsetto is absolutely insignificant to some of Ed's worst vocal moments. Not even comparable. He does it fine.
i think ed sounds great on Sirens
Yup.

I'm pretty sure autotune is involved somewhere, though. In the wavering 'Iiiii' at the start, for example. But meh, they'd have used it on Ten if it had been available (or, if it was, good enough quality).
expand on this if you don't mind. How does "autotune" work in a moment like that "Iiii"... i did immedialty notice how smooth he was in that moment.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
theplatypus wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing Sigur Ros in less than a week. I don't care about any of this.
:thumbsup:
Hipsters
Pfft. Sigur Ros is cool now. Hipsters wouldn't go near that place.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:29 pm
by BurtReynolds
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing Sigur Ros in less than a week. I don't care about any of this.
:thumbsup:
Hipsters
Pfft. Sigur Ros is cool now. Hipsters wouldn't go near that place.
Their shows are practically frat parties.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:31 pm
by McParadigm
In Soviet Iceland, frat parties go to you

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:31 pm
by harmless
Habitman wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:I also kinda cringe during the "but all things change" part when his voice cracks.
I :heartbeat: those lines. Because it's something he rarely does it really draws attention but without it that section would start feeling repetitive.
I always cringe when singers reach too far beyond their range and strain I guess, it's not just Ed. I hate when Patterson Hood tries to sing falsetto too.
Yeah it's not technically great - however, he's in far better form on this record than Backspacer and without the annoying flourishes.
I find it to be a highlight.
This falsetto is absolutely insignificant to some of Ed's worst vocal moments. Not even comparable. He does it fine.
i think ed sounds great on Sirens
Yup.

I'm pretty sure autotune is involved somewhere, though. In the wavering 'Iiiii' at the start, for example. But meh, they'd have used it on Ten if it had been available (or, if it was, good enough quality).
expand on this if you don't mind. How does "autotune" work in a moment like that "Iiii"... i did immedialty notice how smooth he was in that moment.
All you have to do is turn a dial to change the notes.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:32 pm
by sward
Habitman wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:I also kinda cringe during the "but all things change" part when his voice cracks.
I :heartbeat: those lines. Because it's something he rarely does it really draws attention but without it that section would start feeling repetitive.
I always cringe when singers reach too far beyond their range and strain I guess, it's not just Ed. I hate when Patterson Hood tries to sing falsetto too.
Yeah it's not technically great - however, he's in far better form on this record than Backspacer and without the annoying flourishes.
I find it to be a highlight.
This falsetto is absolutely insignificant to some of Ed's worst vocal moments. Not even comparable. He does it fine.
i think ed sounds great on Sirens
Yup.

I'm pretty sure autotune is involved somewhere, though. In the wavering 'Iiiii' at the start, for example. But meh, they'd have used it on Ten if it had been available (or, if it was, good enough quality).
expand on this if you don't mind. How does "autotune" work in a moment like that "Iiii"... i did immedialty notice how smooth he was in that moment.
Sounds very good in the video version and I'm not getting any sense of an autotune there.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:35 pm
by harmless
sward wrote:
Habitman wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
solace wrote:I also kinda cringe during the "but all things change" part when his voice cracks.
I :heartbeat: those lines. Because it's something he rarely does it really draws attention but without it that section would start feeling repetitive.
I always cringe when singers reach too far beyond their range and strain I guess, it's not just Ed. I hate when Patterson Hood tries to sing falsetto too.
Yeah it's not technically great - however, he's in far better form on this record than Backspacer and without the annoying flourishes.
I find it to be a highlight.
This falsetto is absolutely insignificant to some of Ed's worst vocal moments. Not even comparable. He does it fine.
i think ed sounds great on Sirens
Yup.

I'm pretty sure autotune is involved somewhere, though. In the wavering 'Iiiii' at the start, for example. But meh, they'd have used it on Ten if it had been available (or, if it was, good enough quality).
expand on this if you don't mind. How does "autotune" work in a moment like that "Iiii"... i did immedialty notice how smooth he was in that moment.
Sounds very good in the video version and I'm not getting any sense of an autotune there.
The video version has the same vocal superimposed. They can intersperse that live vocal with studio vocal parts, and that's what they do here.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:35 pm
by harmless
I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:36 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:38 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.
Indeed.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:38 pm
by sward
So you think that the video version is a mix of a live take and studio?? Not questioning, curious. Anyway, I'm going to ask a buddy of mine who does audio recording to see if he's getting a sense of autotune out of curiosity.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:39 pm
by sward
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.
Indeed.
Probably right!

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:42 pm
by harmless
sward wrote:So you think that the video version is a mix of a live take and studio?? Not questioning, curious. Anyway, I'm going to ask a buddy of mine who does audio recording to see if he's getting a sense of autotune out of curiosity.
Yep. But your friend won't know if this is happening unless he can compare it to the studio version.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:43 pm
by Dugg
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.
No doubt, but isn't autotuned a different beast from cleaning up in post processing?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:43 pm
by sward
harmless wrote:
sward wrote:So you think that the video version is a mix of a live take and studio?? Not questioning, curious. Anyway, I'm going to ask a buddy of mine who does audio recording to see if he's getting a sense of autotune out of curiosity.
Yep. But your friend won't know if this is happening unless he can compare it to the studio version.
Ah. K. That's what I was going to get him to look at. I don't have the slightest clue. ahhahah

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:46 pm
by Thejambi
Dugg wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.
No doubt, but isn't autotuned a different beast from cleaning up in post processing?
I don't think so but I honestly don't know.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:46 pm
by Jaeti
Disclaimer: I have nothing invested in reviews of this song, be they positive or negative. Just putting this here for the heck of it. Guess I found it a bit surprising that a piece this long was written about just this one song.

http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/09/p ... th-sirens/

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 5:46 pm
by harmless
Dugg wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:I can't prove that it's happening but it certainly sounds like it. It's probably not the first time though, so whatever.
I don't have he energy for speculation but I'd be suprised if his vocals haven't been cleaned up since 1992.
No doubt, but isn't autotuned a different beast from cleaning up in post processing?
I think they autotune on software after something's recorded, so it's post-recording at least. It's part of that cleaning-up.