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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 2:08 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:McParadigm wrote:Republicans: It’s hearsay
Trump: I did it
Republicans: The investigation is premature
Trump: I’m doing it again
Republicans: He did nothing wrong
Trump: Rick Perry made me do the thing that was wrong that I did
Republicans: Impeachment is such a drastic, divisive step to take
Trump: Impeach Mitt Romney
Republicans over the last three days: The China one was clearly just him joking around, razzing the press.
Trump:
Republicans: If Democrats want witnesses they should call a vote first. Our grievance is procedural and about respect for the process.
Trump:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 5:48 pm
by McParadigm
The administration probably believes impeachment for obstruction is less catastrophic for their reputations and their lives than ever letting this story come out.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 10:53 pm
by McParadigm
That White House letter is fucking bonkers.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 11:17 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:That White House letter is fucking bonkers.
It's like...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 11:17 pm
by epilogue
... I mean...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 11:17 pm
by epilogue
I mean, it's like...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue October 08, 2019 11:28 pm
by dimejinky99
Trump is in the rise of skywalker
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 12:03 am
by tragabigzanda
I’m too busy to read up on this, does Trump’s letter have any firm legal grounds behind it?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 12:24 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:I’m too busy to read up on this, does Trump’s letter have any firm legal grounds behind it?
Does anything he does?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 2:37 am
by McParadigm
It’s ostensibly just a rebranding of the obstruction they were already engaged in, but it’s also the first stirrings of an argument that says impeachment is unconstitutional. Refuse all document and interview requests, leave them with only obstruction to impeach you on, McConnell then protects you in the senate while calling the whole thing a kangaroo court. “The Democrats irresponsibly rushed to impeachment without ever seeing or showing any evidence” etc.
With this letter the trifecta of arguments is complete: a sitting president can’t be indicted, you can’t impeach the president because he won the election, and the evidence you can’t look at is related to us trying to fix the election.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 2:43 am
by Simple Torture
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 2:45 am
by McParadigm
Yup. There’s a reason lawyers were just in court arguing that the 1974 US vs Nixon judgment was wrongly decided.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 12:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
Today’s ep of The Daily travels with Rep. Slotkin (freshman Dem in MI swing district) back home to talk impeachment at three town halls, very interested to listen later today.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 4:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:Today’s ep of The Daily travels with Rep. Slotkin (freshman Dem in MI swing district) back home to talk impeachment at three town halls, very interested to listen later today.
I found this to be positively thrilling audio reporting.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 4:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
What's that saying about broken clocks and dogs asses?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 4:40 pm
by wease
Meanwhile, Trump refuses to pay annual UN dues to the tune of $1 billion. The UN is worried they won't be able to pay their bills. Just like all of Trump's businesses and his campaign. You'd think since it was someone else's money, he wouldn't have a problem with this being paid.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 4:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
wease wrote:Meanwhile, Trump refuses to pay annual UN dues to the tune of $1 billion. The UN is worried they won't be able to pay their bills.
That's fucking tragic.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 5:22 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
And to absolutely no one's surprise Turkey has begun it's Syrian offensive.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 6:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
Poll: 21 percent of GOP voters would prefer Pence as president
More interesting is the independent numbers, with indies favoring Trump over Pence by just 57-43. As for the 21% figure, I'd expect the machinations to roll out all manner of pro-Pence talking points over the next several weeks to see if there are any issues that might get those numbers higher.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed October 09, 2019 8:01 pm
by wease
Biff Pocoroba wrote:And to absolutely no one's surprise Turkey has begun it's Syrian offensive.
And now Trump is telling Turkey it's a bad idea. Jesus Christ he's an imbicile.