Gigaton: Official album thread

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Interesting to keep an eye on the Metracritic score for Gigaton. 81 so far which is close to the highest any PJ album has received but of course it could drop after album release as more reviews come in.

https://www.metacritic.com/music/gigato ... ic-reviews
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Pitchfork haven't reviewed it yet - that'll certainly drag it down.
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True, but Better Homes and Gardens will bump it right back up again.
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oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
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Hahaha, right now that NME review is dragging it down.
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Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
If they don't dick around I think they could write about 4 good songs a year using this new process.
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FlatSideofaDog wrote:
Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
If they don't dick around I think they could write about 4 good songs a year using this new process.
and then just release those 4 songs, call it an ep or whatever the eff, just release it. they had some great ideas on this album.
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“Experimental road map to musical redemption” is an exquisite summary
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A lot of reviews don’t give out scores so Metacritic is a little funky.

Also, a B+ only being an 83 goes against everything I learned in school.
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Jaeti wrote:Hahaha, right now that NME review is dragging it down.
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Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
That quote could really go either way.
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Some really lovely super intelligent people here among us.

Please stop worrying about reviews

Negative or positive. It undoes everything you’ve contributed yourself.

They mean nothing except It’s in a format you can wipe your ass with. It doesn’t make it any more legitimate than anyone’s if that’s the only use it actually has.
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McParadigm wrote:“Experimental road map to musical redemption” is an exquisite summary
Mike might be an elegant quotesmith, but, he's no McP
We still make records to be listened to — not that everyone will listen to a record track one to twelve in a row or side A or Side B — but we still make 'em in case somebody does want to listen to it like that, that's how we make em…
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Anders wrote:
Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
That quote could really go either way.
I interpreted that "darkness" as being about their split with BoB, who is essentially a friend, and the decision to start the project again
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
That quote could really go either way.
I interpreted that "darkness" as being about their split with BoB, who is essentially a friend, and the decision to start the project again
«Need for human connection» when they barely were in the studio together.
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Even the PJ account skipped over Retrograde on the daily teases.
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Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Antelope wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I really wonder how much the long gestation and wfh aspects of this thing helped on the songwriting side. Instead of making early decisions about songs and styles based on what sounded good in a room with the band, they were experiencing the developing songs as recordings, evaluating ideas on record first and sometimes not even knowing how the same pieces would behave together in a live setting…maybe for the first time ever.
That's a great point. We know for a fact that the past few records were primarily composed with an eye towards the stage. It's a refreshing change to see otherwise
This quote from Mike from the original album announcement is really interesting now that we have context for how the album was made: “Making this record was a long journey,” explains Mike McCready. “It was emotionally dark and confusing at times, but also an exciting and experimental road map to musical redemption. Collaborating with my bandmates on Gigaton ultimately gave me greater love, awareness and knowledge of the need for human connection in these times."

Makes me wonder if he missed that aspect of being in a room with the whole band to make a record.
That quote could really go either way.
I interpreted that "darkness" as being about their split with BoB, who is essentially a friend, and the decision to start the project again
«Need for human connection» when they barely were in the studio together.
idk, but that could also refer to severed connections between friends

maybe he did find it that hard not being with his friends, who knows
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scrub12 wrote:Even the PJ account skipped over Retrograde on the daily teases.
lol really?
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Ms Harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:Even the PJ account skipped over Retrograde on the daily teases.
lol really?
They can still tease it tomorrow.
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