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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:13 pm
by tommy
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
Which record?
Lightning Bolt

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:18 pm
by Strat
The replacements - tim

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:29 pm
by Chris_H_2
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:32 pm
by Strat
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:38 pm
by taffer
WtOB? wrote:drums sound good on gigaton you n00bs.
I pretty much hate drum sound on gigaton, on the other hand i love the drums sound on Binaural/Riot Act/Backspacer albums

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:39 pm
by Farmer John
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production
I can relate to that. But still, it will suck if Matt gives a performance for the ages only for the drums come out sounding like they do on Earthling or that new Rolling Stones song.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 3:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
taffer wrote:
WtOB? wrote:drums sound good on gigaton you n00bs.
I pretty much hate drum sound on gigaton, on the other hand i love the drums sound on Binaural/Riot Act/Backspacer albums
Yeah other than DOTC I think the drums aren’t great

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 4:17 pm
by bodysnatcher
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production
This is the camp I’m in

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 4:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
I think there's a vast chasm between lo-fi garbage and hi-fi garbage. The former can be quite charming.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 4:23 pm
by Coach
Long live the Earthlings!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:11 pm
by 96583UP
i like the idea of the bank acting on their toes but also am concerned how basic/spritzy this may turn out ("yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah")

hopefully though he does have some good vintage guitar tones (a la Vs.) bc the album-PJ guitar tones have generally sucked the last 20 years

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:16 pm
by spike
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production
The songs won’t be excellent.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:16 pm
by spike
Farmer John wrote:
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production
I can relate to that. But still, it will suck if Matt gives a performance for the ages only for the drums come out sounding like they do on Earthling or that new Rolling Stones song.
He won’t.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 5:53 pm
by joostone
https://www.spin.com/2023/09/mike-mccre ... interview/
How has it been working with Andrew Watt?

He brings this very positive energy and knows how to get really good sounds. At the same time, his energy kind of kicked us in our asses a little bit. He would be like ‘Come on, dude,’ you know? He is kind of yelling and jumping up and down a lot and being happy. He’s a fan, but he has great structure ideas, great sound ideas, and song ideas. I’m so excited about what he did with us.

In what sense?

The record’s gonna have some great examples of Matt Cameron’s drumming that just blew my mind. He took it up about 10 notches for this new record, and it really is because of Andrew’s enthusiasm, and, again, him jumping up and down and saying ‘Try it again!’ and then saying ‘Oh, we got it!’ and on to the next thing. He pushed us to play as best as we could. It’s hard for us to listen to other people because we have so many ideas ourselves.

What was the last time someone dared to do that?

It’s been a long time. Probably Brendan (O’Brien).

The first or second string of albums with him?

I would say first and second time. I mean, Brendan I love, and we’ve done so many amazing records with him. Andrew is part of this new generation of guys that know exactly what they want to hear. Brendan was that way too. A great producer has an overall vision of what your band can be that maybe you don’t see. Andrew has that in spades. He wants us to sound like the energy of the early days, with music that is of the present. I know I keep saying it, but he kicked our asses in the greatest way possible.

Did you have any material ready to go or did you write in the studio?


We wrote right on the spot.

Have you all ever worked like that before?

I don’t know if that’s ever happened. We’ll always get together before [the studio] and work on demos with our friends. Richard Stuverud will do stuff with Jeff. I’ll use Mike Musburger. Then we’ll bring them into the main band and get feedback: ‘I like this’ or ‘I’m not responding to this.’ But we always come in with way too much stuff, which is a good problem to have. This time, we brought nothing in. It was intriguing, but a bit scary.

Were you anxious about changing up the way you’ve been doing this for so many years?

There was a little bit of anxiety but also, I feel like we’re at a point in our career where we can take chances and not do the same thing. I think we have a mindset of being open to that. Andrew told us not to bring any of our stuff, except for Matt’s drums. Andrew, or Brendan for that matter, knows exactly what each amp sounds like and what they’re gonna do. I don’t know that until I’m doing it. I just know what I like to hear.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:12 pm
by liebzz
I mean, this is very typical things they say before an album comes out. I am just waiting for the “some of our best work in the studio” comments to make their way out.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:14 pm
by joostone
liebzz wrote:I mean, this is very typical things they say before an album comes out. I am just waiting for the “some of our best work in the studio” comments to make their way out.
True, but they never sound this excited. Well, Im just excited about the process Mike describes here and thee fact that Matt is giving 110%

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:20 pm
by Farmer John
spike wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:one of my favorite records ever sounds like garbage.

Ultimately, if the songs are great i dont care how it sounds.
so you don't buy into the whole "overly polished, overly produced" critique?

it's like every time i see an episode of the simpsons from like the last 15 years or so, no matter how funny the lines are, they don't hit as hard because everything is too clean.
No. All valid concerns and certainly can turn me off of some stuff. But, if the songs are excellent or resonate with me on a deep level, it's very easy for me to overlook or care less about production
I can relate to that. But still, it will suck if Matt gives a performance for the ages only for the drums come out sounding like they do on Earthling or that new Rolling Stones song.
He won’t.
But in theory, that would suck.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:29 pm
by bodysnatcher
joostone wrote:
liebzz wrote:I mean, this is very typical things they say before an album comes out. I am just waiting for the “some of our best work in the studio” comments to make their way out.
True, but they never sound this excited. Well, Im just excited about the process Mike describes here and thee fact that Matt is giving 110%
Matt on the obligatory Ed ballad

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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:49 pm
by McParadigm
for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:51 pm
by tommy
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter

If you took away complaining about drumming this board would be pretty dead.