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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:20 am
by stupidmop
harmless wrote:stupidmop wrote:harmless wrote:Fair point. If the sirens are ambulance sirens, then your smoking / drinking / generally being an ass might make the second verse make sense. But "If you choose to stay, I'll wait, I'll understand..." Ugh. Ed, explain.
That line is weird. It sounds like it could be about the afterlife, so if she decides to stay on earth, he'll understand and wait for her on the otherside. Which is still odd cause it sounds like hed be happy if she topped herself and followed him.
Yeah, I have considered that. And it kind of looked interesting against my criminal film noire story.
A film noir tragedy would have made a hilarious juxtaposition with the song but an entertaining video.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:22 am
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:harmless wrote:stupidmop wrote:harmless wrote:Fair point. If the sirens are ambulance sirens, then your smoking / drinking / generally being an ass might make the second verse make sense. But "If you choose to stay, I'll wait, I'll understand..." Ugh. Ed, explain.
That line is weird. It sounds like it could be about the afterlife, so if she decides to stay on earth, he'll understand and wait for her on the otherside. Which is still odd cause it sounds like hed be happy if she topped herself and followed him.
Yeah, I have considered that. And it kind of looked interesting against my criminal film noire story.
A film noir tragedy would have made a hilarious juxtaposition with the song but an entertaining video.
The perfect video after the MYM one. Man, I didn't want to be wishing we'd had something different, but I'd have loved a similar visual style.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:26 am
by stupidmop
They should have gone lo-fi and 80s with really bad sets and lots of neon and a smoke machine. Would have been amazingly awful.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:27 am
by harmless
Should've gone with a hotel room, with some gunman hiding out with his wife and small child, peering through the curtains to the cop cars screeching below.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:42 am
by dimejinky99
Too literal.
I still wish this song referred to the Sirens of Greek mythology. Or the ones featured in Ulysses.
It's called sirens, he mentions them a few times but doesn't really make any real use of the image or what they represent. Bit of a disconnect there, ed.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:45 am
by Heathen
dimejinky99 wrote:I still wish this song referred to the Sirens of Greek mythology. Or the ones featured in Ulysses.
Or the ones Homer wrote about.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:45 am
by harmless
The sirens are obviously police / ambulance / emergency sirens of some kind. I dropped the greek mythology possibility as soon as I'd heard the song for the first time. The song is about threat and death and the sirens represent that.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:45 am
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:harmless wrote:I'm not sure I completely buy this is Ed thinking he's about to die, or even that he's going to die in the next 20, 25, 30 years. Is that realistic?
His father died young from MS, I'm sure that's the kind of thing that's going to weigh on a guy's mind once he has kids of his own. It doesn't seem particularly far-fetched.
My dad died of a heart attack before his 64th birthday. I quit smoking within a year.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:46 am
by dimejinky99
It'd be good to know if the inventor of the siren called it after the Greek harpies.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:46 am
by stip
maybe they are also about temptation. that way the verse that doesn't make sense can make sense!
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:47 am
by harmless
cutuphalfdead wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:harmless wrote:I'm not sure I completely buy this is Ed thinking he's about to die, or even that he's going to die in the next 20, 25, 30 years. Is that realistic?
His father died young from MS, I'm sure that's the kind of thing that's going to weigh on a guy's mind once he has kids of his own. It doesn't seem particularly far-fetched.
My dad died of a heart attack before his 64th birthday. I quit smoking within a year.
Somehow didn't spot Spenno's post before, but this is a real possibility.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:47 am
by Harry Lime
harmless wrote:The sirens are obviously police / ambulance / emergency sirens of some kind. I dropped the greek mythology possibility as soon as I'd heard the song for the first time. The song is about threat and death and the sirens represent that.
I think the Sirens are the groupies that Ed finally slept with and now he knows he made a mistake.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:48 am
by stip
Harry Lime wrote:harmless wrote:The sirens are obviously police / ambulance / emergency sirens of some kind. I dropped the greek mythology possibility as soon as I'd heard the song for the first time. The song is about threat and death and the sirens represent that.
I think the Sirens are the groupies that Ed finally slept with and now he knows he made a mistake.
if they gave him an STD all interpretations converge!
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:49 am
by harmless
stip wrote:maybe they are also about temptation. that way the verse that doesn't make sense can make sense!
Yeah. I don't know, I thought about that too. The sirens are coming for me, it's a bit like my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. The second verse could be about Ed cheating and his wife forgiving him, and if she choose to stay, he'll wait for her anger to subside. But I don't know, this makes Ed sound like a philanderer and a bit of a jerk.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:49 am
by Heathen
stip wrote:maybe they are also about temptation. that way the verse that doesn't make sense can make sense!
Maybe the Sirens refer to how you guys keep listening to this song even though you know you shouldn't, while some of us are staying firmly tied to the mast.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:50 am
by harmless
There's a mast?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:50 am
by stip
lock 'er up
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:51 am
by Heathen
Oh there is

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 11:51 am
by harmless
stip wrote:Harry Lime wrote:harmless wrote:The sirens are obviously police / ambulance / emergency sirens of some kind. I dropped the greek mythology possibility as soon as I'd heard the song for the first time. The song is about threat and death and the sirens represent that.
I think the Sirens are the groupies that Ed finally slept with and now he knows he made a mistake.
if they gave him an STD all interpretations converge!
Maybe that's why this song follows 'My Father's Son', with the sperm bottle and everything.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sun September 22, 2013 12:04 pm
by dimejinky99
The end/sirens both seem to be about illness leading to death. And the fear of losing what you treasure most.
The next song is my fathers son?
Didn't eds father die of MS?