Red Mosquito

epilogue wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ello Sailor wrote:

epilogue wrote:Swap Amnesiac and Kid A and that's basically where I'm at, too.

Hold up -- so you'd rank Kid A 6th-7th? You've lost your damn mind.

It's not a great record.

When it first came out, I found the high points to be amazing, but the more ambient pieces (title track and Treefingers, specifically), to be meandering pieces that I wanted to like, but didn’t really love. And they were placed early in the album, so it mucked up the flow.

20 years later, and I’ve consumed so much ambient and minimalist stuff that I now count those two tracks as some of my favorite in their catalog. I needed the frames of reference of Eno, Can, Neu!, Budd, etc to fully enjoy them.

Now I love those tracks and couldn’t imagine the album without them. It’s a GREAT record.

It's not for me.

Optimistic and Idioteque are great songs. How to Disappear is solid. Everything in it's Right Place is fine, if a tad long and repetitive.

The rest of the album is totally disposable. I don't enjoy listening to the album (it doesn't flow well at all) or the other tracks that I didn't mention already. But I also don't like ambient minimalist music. So maybe Kid A is GREAT for what it is but what it is isn't for me.

epilogue wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ello Sailor wrote:

epilogue wrote:Swap Amnesiac and Kid A and that's basically where I'm at, too.

Hold up -- so you'd rank Kid A 6th-7th? You've lost your damn mind.

It's not a great record.

When it first came out, I found the high points to be amazing, but the more ambient pieces (title track and Treefingers, specifically), to be meandering pieces that I wanted to like, but didn’t really love. And they were placed early in the album, so it mucked up the flow.

20 years later, and I’ve consumed so much ambient and minimalist stuff that I now count those two tracks as some of my favorite in their catalog. I needed the frames of reference of Eno, Can, Neu!, Budd, etc to fully enjoy them.

Now I love those tracks and couldn’t imagine the album without them. It’s a GREAT record.

It's not for me.

Optimistic and Idioteque are great songs. How to Disappear is solid. Everything in it's Right Place is fine, if a tad long and repetitive.

The rest of the album is totally disposable. I don't enjoy listening to the album (it doesn't flow well at all) or the other tracks that I didn't mention already. But I also don't like ambient minimalist music. So maybe Kid A is GREAT for what it is but what it is isn't for me.

warehouse wrote:

epilogue wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ello Sailor wrote:

epilogue wrote:Swap Amnesiac and Kid A and that's basically where I'm at, too.

Hold up -- so you'd rank Kid A 6th-7th? You've lost your damn mind.

It's not a great record.

When it first came out, I found the high points to be amazing, but the more ambient pieces (title track and Treefingers, specifically), to be meandering pieces that I wanted to like, but didn’t really love. And they were placed early in the album, so it mucked up the flow.

20 years later, and I’ve consumed so much ambient and minimalist stuff that I now count those two tracks as some of my favorite in their catalog. I needed the frames of reference of Eno, Can, Neu!, Budd, etc to fully enjoy them.

Now I love those tracks and couldn’t imagine the album without them. It’s a GREAT record.

It's not for me.

Optimistic and Idioteque are great songs. How to Disappear is solid. Everything in it's Right Place is fine, if a tad long and repetitive.

The rest of the album is totally disposable. I don't enjoy listening to the album (it doesn't flow well at all) or the other tracks that I didn't mention already. But I also don't like ambient minimalist music. So maybe Kid A is GREAT for what it is but what it is isn't for me.

national anthem?

epilogue wrote:Everything in it's Right Place is fine, if a tad long and repetitive.

warehouse wrote:thats interesting b/c its probably my favorite song on the album. that horn section is one of my favorite parts in any radiohead song. idioteque is almost universally loved, optimistic and everything in its right place are probably my other favorites. i think part of it is the whole idea of listening from front to back. the song 'kid a' is stuck right in between two of my favorite songs, but i'm not going to skip it. part of it also might be its place in rock n roll history.

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:thats interesting b/c its probably my favorite song on the album. that horn section is one of my favorite parts in any radiohead song. idioteque is almost universally loved, optimistic and everything in its right place are probably my other favorites. i think part of it is the whole idea of listening from front to back. the song 'kid a' is stuck right in between two of my favorite songs, but i'm not going to skip it. part of it also might be its place in rock n roll history.

There's definitely a pretentious and cynical side of me that wants to believe the only reason people love that record is because they were told to. And, as you say, its place in history.

But that's not true or fair. I just think ultimately sometimes things click. And sometimes they find you over time. Kid A still hasn't clicked for me. I'm guessing at this point it never will. It's cool, the band have a ton of great music that I can and do appreciate. I still think they're one of the best bands of all time, just not maybe for some of the same reasons others do.

Ello Sailor wrote:I can't choose between OKC, Kid A and In Rainbows. I'm leaning towards IR, but I'm not sure if that's just because From the Basement left such a mark on me.

warehouse wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:thats interesting b/c its probably my favorite song on the album. that horn section is one of my favorite parts in any radiohead song. idioteque is almost universally loved, optimistic and everything in its right place are probably my other favorites. i think part of it is the whole idea of listening from front to back. the song 'kid a' is stuck right in between two of my favorite songs, but i'm not going to skip it. part of it also might be its place in rock n roll history.

There's definitely a pretentious and cynical side of me that wants to believe the only reason people love that record is because they were told to. And, as you say, its place in history.

But that's not true or fair. I just think ultimately sometimes things click. And sometimes they find you over time. Kid A still hasn't clicked for me. I'm guessing at this point it never will. It's cool, the band have a ton of great music that I can and do appreciate. I still think they're one of the best bands of all time, just not maybe for some of the same reasons others do.

i hear what you are saying, but i look at it a little differently. i was like 16-17 when kid a and amnesiac came out. these albums kicked the shit out of me. i already loved radiohead, but these releases being so close together and out of left field really made them feel important in the moment. and honestly it still holds up, i listened to idioteque earlier today. i know its a favorite in 'best of' lists, but people like me are partly to blame for that.

Norris wrote:I've come to peace with the fact that Joey is wrong about Kid A.

tragabigzanda wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb

I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

tragabigzanda wrote:I can dig it, joe. There an overtly intellectual sensibility to Kid A that doesn’t really appear on any of their other albums.