Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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I was gonna type out a long response about some positivity bullshit. i deleted it and all i want to do is post McP's avatar. That sums up most of it I think
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wait, people are getting upset because there might be a darth vader flashback in the movie? it's darth fucking vader, one of the greatest movie villains ever; star wars is pretty lame without him.
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spike wrote:wait, people are getting upset because there might be a darth vader flashback in the movie? it's darth fucking vader, one of the greatest movie villains ever; star wars is pretty lame without him.
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McParadigm wrote:A bridge is a good metaphor for what the first movie ought to be, yeah. And JJ is a good director for just such a thing.

All these "we'll have a Boba Fett movie" ideas bouncing around seem to suggest that it'll be a long and crowded bridge, though. Plus, I'd wager that a perfectly adequate and financially successful movie will get held up as the new gold standard by execs, rather than being treated as the first step towards something more.
I'm way less excited about these proposed stand-alone films. I totally get why they're making them and I don't think it impossible for them to be fun or even really fantastic films. But I just don't care about exploring more of Boba Fett or Han as a tween or even Yoda, if Yoda is the central protagonist. These seems way less fruitful than Ep 7-9.
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Strat wrote:
spike wrote:wait, people are getting upset because there might be a darth vader flashback in the movie? it's darth fucking vader, one of the greatest movie villains ever; star wars is pretty lame without him.
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and he qualifies it by saying he liked a clone wars episode where soldiers had to deal with being sent to slaughter. go watch the pacific on hbo or something if that's what you're after.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
McParadigm wrote:A bridge is a good metaphor for what the first movie ought to be, yeah. And JJ is a good director for just such a thing.

All these "we'll have a Boba Fett movie" ideas bouncing around seem to suggest that it'll be a long and crowded bridge, though. Plus, I'd wager that a perfectly adequate and financially successful movie will get held up as the new gold standard by execs, rather than being treated as the first step towards something more.
I'm way less excited about these proposed stand-alone films. I totally get why they're making them and I don't think it impossible for them to be fun or even really fantastic films. But I just don't care about exploring more of Boba Fett or Han as a tween or even Yoda, if Yoda is the central protagonist. These seems way less fruitful than Ep 7-9.

Exactly. But if 7-9 are really good then suddenly you might care a lot more about them.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
McParadigm wrote:A bridge is a good metaphor for what the first movie ought to be, yeah. And JJ is a good director for just such a thing.

All these "we'll have a Boba Fett movie" ideas bouncing around seem to suggest that it'll be a long and crowded bridge, though. Plus, I'd wager that a perfectly adequate and financially successful movie will get held up as the new gold standard by execs, rather than being treated as the first step towards something more.
I'm way less excited about these proposed stand-alone films. I totally get why they're making them and I don't think it impossible for them to be fun or even really fantastic films. But I just don't care about exploring more of Boba Fett or Han as a tween or even Yoda, if Yoda is the central protagonist. These seems way less fruitful than Ep 7-9.
Gareth Edwards is directing the Boba Fett movie. That's all I care about.
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stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
McParadigm wrote:A bridge is a good metaphor for what the first movie ought to be, yeah. And JJ is a good director for just such a thing.

All these "we'll have a Boba Fett movie" ideas bouncing around seem to suggest that it'll be a long and crowded bridge, though. Plus, I'd wager that a perfectly adequate and financially successful movie will get held up as the new gold standard by execs, rather than being treated as the first step towards something more.
I'm way less excited about these proposed stand-alone films. I totally get why they're making them and I don't think it impossible for them to be fun or even really fantastic films. But I just don't care about exploring more of Boba Fett or Han as a tween or even Yoda, if Yoda is the central protagonist. These seems way less fruitful than Ep 7-9.

Exactly. But if 7-9 are really good then suddenly you might care a lot more about them.
I'm sure that's their hope. We'll see. But there's a much higher likelihood that I'll want more stories beyond the known timeline. My interest in the Sith War and the Old Republic will dramatically increase if 7-9 are good.
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Mine too.
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I had interest after the original trilogy, but the prequels were an ice bath for me.
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stip wrote:I had interest after the original trilogy, but the prequels were an ice bath for me.
But that's probably why I'm less anxious for more Empire/Skywalker stuff. Ultimately, I agree with your argument. I'm going to give Ep 7 all of the benefit of the doubt. But it's precisely the icy letdown of the prequels that makes me want to see a new story, see new characters and conflicts.
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It's had the opposite effect on me. I need the primary story to make me care about the universe again.
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I'm re-listening to your playlist right now. You quietly drafted a pretty great team
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stip wrote:It's had the opposite effect on me. I need the primary story to make me care about the universe again.
new stories have to at least tie in a bit to the old ones for continuity. i don't see what the big deal over flashbacks is.
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stip wrote:I'm re-listening to your playlist right now. You quietly drafted a pretty great team
Thanks!

Also, though, the prequels are the primary story.
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spike wrote:
stip wrote:It's had the opposite effect on me. I need the primary story to make me care about the universe again.
new stories have to at least tie in a bit to the old ones for continuity. i don't see what the big deal over flashbacks is.
I haven't seen/read/heard anyone making a big deal out of the (rumored) flashbacks. If that's happening, then yes, that's silly.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
spike wrote:
stip wrote:It's had the opposite effect on me. I need the primary story to make me care about the universe again.
new stories have to at least tie in a bit to the old ones for continuity. i don't see what the big deal over flashbacks is.
I haven't seen/read/heard anyone making a big deal out of the (rumored) flashbacks. If that's happening, then yes, that's silly.
i guess you missed the last couple of pages of this thread.
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spike wrote:
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spike wrote:
stip wrote:It's had the opposite effect on me. I need the primary story to make me care about the universe again.
new stories have to at least tie in a bit to the old ones for continuity. i don't see what the big deal over flashbacks is.
I haven't seen/read/heard anyone making a big deal out of the (rumored) flashbacks. If that's happening, then yes, that's silly.
i guess you missed the last couple of pages of this thread.
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While I don't doubt that there are great non-Skywalker stories in the Star Wars universe, there's every indication that the Skywalker story line will continue for these movies. Why is there even discussion that this might not be a Skywalker story?
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