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spike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I watched the first two episodes of Deadwood last night. I'd never seen it before. It's been on my list for so long, I was glad to finally get a chance to sit down and give it a go. While it's certainly a competent show, and many aspects are very good, including some of the performances (Ian McShane, I'm looking at you), I'm not sure I get why people love it so much.

Does it get better? Is it like Mad Men? Do I need to give it five or six episodes before it clicks? I don't dislike it by any stretch, but I'm not seeing anything that puts it in the "best of all time" category like so many others have said before. I'm not going to quit it yet, but I'm just wondering if it's just me or if the show gets better.

it was more groundbreaking or whatever when it came out; there was nothing else like it on tv then. it's very influential.

BurtReynolds wrote:i think it gets better after the Wild Bill stuff.

bada wrote:I don't know if Deadwood is the best show of all time but its certainly my favorite show ever.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

spike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I watched the first two episodes of Deadwood last night. I'd never seen it before. It's been on my list for so long, I was glad to finally get a chance to sit down and give it a go. While it's certainly a competent show, and many aspects are very good, including some of the performances (Ian McShane, I'm looking at you), I'm not sure I get why people love it so much.

Does it get better? Is it like Mad Men? Do I need to give it five or six episodes before it clicks? I don't dislike it by any stretch, but I'm not seeing anything that puts it in the "best of all time" category like so many others have said before. I'm not going to quit it yet, but I'm just wondering if it's just me or if the show gets better.

it was more groundbreaking or whatever when it came out; there was nothing else like it on tv then. it's very influential.

What were the individual elements that compose great TV that people latched on to with Deadwood? What did/does Deadwood do better than any of its contemporaries. Keep in mind I haven't seen a lot of the other "groundbreaking" shows that people reference like The Sopranos and The Wire or even some things that may be borrowing from Deadwood like Boardwalk Empire or Hell on Wheels.

I've never seen a moment of Deadwood, but one of my friends loves it, and he says it's primarily the dialogue. That's definitely a big part of the appeal with The Wire and The Sopranos -- characters that feel so real because they actually talk like real people, and have conversations that are complicated and require you to pay attention. I gather Deadwood does something more ambitious/lyrical, but I think it's a similar thing -- writing that respects the viewer's intelligence.

theplatypus wrote:I love The Sopranos. I'm due for another rewatch.

durdencommatyler wrote:

spike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I watched the first two episodes of Deadwood last night. I'd never seen it before. It's been on my list for so long, I was glad to finally get a chance to sit down and give it a go. While it's certainly a competent show, and many aspects are very good, including some of the performances (Ian McShane, I'm looking at you), I'm not sure I get why people love it so much.

Does it get better? Is it like Mad Men? Do I need to give it five or six episodes before it clicks? I don't dislike it by any stretch, but I'm not seeing anything that puts it in the "best of all time" category like so many others have said before. I'm not going to quit it yet, but I'm just wondering if it's just me or if the show gets better.

it was more groundbreaking or whatever when it came out; there was nothing else like it on tv then. it's very influential.

What were the individual elements that compose great TV that people latched on to with Deadwood? What did/does Deadwood do better than any of its contemporaries. Keep in mind I haven't seen a lot of the other "groundbreaking" shows that people reference like The Sopranos and The Wire or even some things that may be borrowing from Deadwood like Boardwalk Empire or Hell on Wheels.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

doug rr wrote:when they found out deadwood was not being renewed during season 3 it became a huge mess and was rushed

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

Gotcha. This conversation has renewed my regret at not watching Homicide.

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

Gotcha. This conversation has renewed my regret at not watching Homicide.

Because neither of us loved deadwood?

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

Gotcha. This conversation has renewed my regret at not watching Homicide.

Because neither of us loved deadwood?

Your opinions are well thought out. And I tend to agree with you when it comes to TV. So, I think I'd probably really like the show, is all. You've recommended it so many times, I just feel like I should have tried it out by now.

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

Gotcha. This conversation has renewed my regret at not watching Homicide.

Because neither of us loved deadwood?

Your opinions are well thought out. And I tend to agree with you when it comes to TV. So, I think I'd probably really like the show, is all. You've recommended it so many times, I just feel like I should have tried it out by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwGqwrC ... -tWWkKJdz7

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I only watched one episode of Deadwood, and boy oh boy did I ever dislike it.

The pilot really wasn't very good. Even the dialogue, as mentioned earlier, was off. And the opening credits sequence is like 2 minutes long and way too foofy.

But a lot of Pilots are wonky, so I gave it another shot. Episode 2 was better. But, yeah, I'm still not seeing the thing that's made it such a favorite among "golden agers."

Still, there's enough in it to keep me watching for a bit longer. I trust Skitch and doug, too. If they say it gets better, I'll keep watching. But it's not high on my list of priorities.

It's more of a power through than a priority.

Gotcha. This conversation has renewed my regret at not watching Homicide.

Because neither of us loved deadwood?

Your opinions are well thought out. And I tend to agree with you when it comes to TV. So, I think I'd probably really like the show, is all. You've recommended it so many times, I just feel like I should have tried it out by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwGqwrC ... -tWWkKJdz7

The, uh,... the movie theater is an interesting choice.