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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:14 am
by harmless
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Thenews15 wrote:Perhaps we all overanalyze things way to much in here. We pick apart every note, cord, pound of the drum, every word and every space. What's up with that? why do we do this to this band? Other bands don't have their fans do this like PJ that I'm aware of. It's just Rock music, if we have less clutter in our minds worrying about EVERYTHING this band does with this album. Shouldn't we just pop in the album, close our eyes, stop worrying about everything, and enjoy the ride? Occum's Razor kind of thing.
I do this to all bands I am emotionally invested in.

Try spending 5 minutes on a Metallica board.
Spending time in here has made me realise why I never had a fucking chance on the Meshuggah forum.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:18 am
by Iowaska_Experience
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:18 am
by harmless
Noaheb wrote:okay so I asked my friend his opinion on these songs since he's not a PJ fan but likes their music and has a pretty good general knowledge of them...he's also a pretty good musician with good taste in music imo...also he hasn't heard much of anything from the last two albums...Anyway, I really only wanted good/sucks/not bad/cheesy etc but he went a little further so for what its worth heres his take on them-

Getaway: has a classic PJ groove to it, but almost incorporates something 80s-ish, almost early U2

Lightning Bolt: just another song showing why they've been able to continually grow and head in new directions over 20 years despite not having mainstream popularity outside of the same old songs they still play off of Ten/VS. (my fave of what you sent)

Let the Records Play: nice blues/swamp groove to this one into a chorus that fits perfectly because it sounds like it doesn't belong - make sense? It's like an REM chorus, only done right - LOL!

Swallowed Whole: classic PJ - could fit on any previous album if it wanted to (maybe not Vitalogy)

Future Days: pretty

Cold Confession: sounds like they're reaching for something but aren't quite getting there - a little monotonous - something's missing, one of their power breaks maybe?

Let it Ride: definitely like it - the chorus and into the solo is what I mean in the previous one as a power break - it changes and opens up into a nice flow

Sirens: great song. very great song. nuff said.


As it goes with all of what I've heard of them over the years, it sounds like they've once again changed the setup as far as what they play on each song. Different guitars, less amps, more of a live presence… each album sounds different production-wise. But they're all consistently good albums. I wasn't a huge fan of Binaural but…. can't please everyone all the time!



I know that last comment about Binaural may disqualify him for many here but...yeah
I hated Binaural for ages, at least he doesn't bash Riot Act.

This is very interesting; what happens when we turn the spotlight away from insular fan opinions... I think I was responding to 'Sirens' as someone who had no expectations of PJ's music. In fact, that's where I am now. So I just don't understand 'It's not good enough because it's not like...' anymore. I just don't expect PJ to make anything like they used to. I wasn't expecting to like Lightning Bolt stuff either but I did.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:19 am
by harmless
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:20 am
by Noaheb
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:22 am
by Fuzzcharger
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P
It's no "Gangnam Style" guys.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:23 am
by harmless
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P
Heh. No I've only seen the video twice. It was a marvellous video but (shoot me) I prefer the studio version.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:23 am
by Fuzzcharger
stip wrote:Illumineddie in sirens
Ah yes, that guy.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:23 am
by stip
Noaheb wrote:okay so I asked my friend his opinion on these songs since he's not a PJ fan but likes their music and has a pretty good general knowledge of them...he's also a pretty good musician with good taste in music imo...also he hasn't heard much of anything from the last two albums...Anyway, I really only wanted good/sucks/not bad/cheesy etc but he went a little further so for what its worth heres his take on them-

Getaway: has a classic PJ groove to it, but almost incorporates something 80s-ish, almost early U2

Lightning Bolt: just another song showing why they've been able to continually grow and head in new directions over 20 years despite not having mainstream popularity outside of the same old songs they still play off of Ten/VS. (my fave of what you sent)

Let the Records Play: nice blues/swamp groove to this one into a chorus that fits perfectly because it sounds like it doesn't belong - make sense? It's like an REM chorus, only done right - LOL!

Swallowed Whole: classic PJ - could fit on any previous album if it wanted to (maybe not Vitalogy)

Future Days: pretty

Cold Confession: sounds like they're reaching for something but aren't quite getting there - a little monotonous - something's missing, one of their power breaks maybe?

Let it Ride: definitely like it - the chorus and into the solo is what I mean in the previous one as a power break - it changes and opens up into a nice flow

Sirens: great song. very great song. nuff said.


As it goes with all of what I've heard of them over the years, it sounds like they've once again changed the setup as far as what they play on each song. Different guitars, less amps, more of a live presence… each album sounds different production-wise. But they're all consistently good albums. I wasn't a huge fan of Binaural but…. can't please everyone all the time!



I know that last comment about Binaural may disqualify him for many here but...yeah

Impeccable taste, especially regarding lbolt

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:24 am
by harmless
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P
It's no "Gangnam Style" guys.
Yeah but what is?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:26 am
by Fuzzcharger
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P
It's no "Gangnam Style" guys.
Yeah but what is?
Nothing. Unfortunately.

Give Eddie some time and he'll be using lyrics like 'heeeeeeeeeeeeeey sexy lady' before you know it though.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:36 am
by Jaeti
Noaheb wrote:okay so I asked my friend his opinion on these songs since he's not a PJ fan but likes their music and has a pretty good general knowledge of them...he's also a pretty good musician with good taste in music imo...also he hasn't heard much of anything from the last two albums...Anyway, I really only wanted good/sucks/not bad/cheesy etc but he went a little further so for what its worth heres his take on them-

Getaway: has a classic PJ groove to it, but almost incorporates something 80s-ish, almost early U2

Lightning Bolt: just another song showing why they've been able to continually grow and head in new directions over 20 years despite not having mainstream popularity outside of the same old songs they still play off of Ten/VS. (my fave of what you sent)

Let the Records Play: nice blues/swamp groove to this one into a chorus that fits perfectly because it sounds like it doesn't belong - make sense? It's like an REM chorus, only done right - LOL!

Swallowed Whole: classic PJ - could fit on any previous album if it wanted to (maybe not Vitalogy)

Future Days: pretty

Cold Confession: sounds like they're reaching for something but aren't quite getting there - a little monotonous - something's missing, one of their power breaks maybe?

Let it Ride: definitely like it - the chorus and into the solo is what I mean in the previous one as a power break - it changes and opens up into a nice flow

Sirens: great song. very great song. nuff said.


As it goes with all of what I've heard of them over the years, it sounds like they've once again changed the setup as far as what they play on each song. Different guitars, less amps, more of a live presence… each album sounds different production-wise. But they're all consistently good albums. I wasn't a huge fan of Binaural but…. can't please everyone all the time!



I know that last comment about Binaural may disqualify him for many here but...yeah
They're still a really, really good band. We ought remember that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:37 am
by Jaeti
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I mentioned this earlier. I don't know what's "good", but if I'd been asked, I'd've set the over/under way lower than that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:38 am
by Jaeti
harmless wrote:I prefer the studio version.
Ditto.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:39 am
by harmless
Jaeti wrote:
harmless wrote:I prefer the studio version.
Ditto.
Except for the xylophone. I don't like that. Maybe it'll make more sense on the album when all the lasers show up.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:41 am
by SomethingCreative
I don't know if I've heard the album version of Sirens... what's the difference?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:43 am
by Noaheb
harmless wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Iowaska_Experience wrote:
harmless wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
harmless wrote:It's also moved down in the poll :lol:
It's fallen in value quicker than Facebook shares.
but not Youtube views.
Is 570K views in a day and a half considered "good" by today's standards? Serious question...I have no idea.
I'm guessing it's very good but I don't know either.
you should since half of them are probably yours! :P
Heh. No I've only seen the video twice. It was a marvellous video but (shoot me) I prefer the studio version.
well that joke failed miserably...I thought views was referring to this thread :oops:
move along nothing to see here

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:43 am
by harmless
The aforementioned xylophone in the outro, and... um. A bigger solo from Mike. And other little intricacies the studio adds including (for me) more atmosphere in Stone's guitar parts.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:44 am
by SaturdayNightSeizure
Is the iTunes single version of sirens the live or studio version?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 12:45 am
by mastaflatch
SaturdayNightSeizure wrote:Is the iTunes single version of sirens the live or studio version?
Yes.