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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:54 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 6:56 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I spent most of my youth listening to bad drum sounds. It was fine.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:01 pm
by Farmer John
OR instead of banning people, we make official RM t-shirts that say "Drum Sounds Matter"

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:01 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I spent most of my youth listening to bad drum sounds. It was fine.
and look at you now!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:09 pm
by Jorge
Drum sounds matter. Wtf.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:17 pm
by 96583UP
maybe Andrew Watt told Matt Cameron to ‘bring his drum set’ simply because Watt doesn’t have one

he is just used to playing guitar to pro tools sounds in his beverly hills basement

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:42 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I spent most of my youth listening to bad drum sounds. It was fine.
and look at you now!
Fully capable of enjoying a well written and well played record where the drums were recorded with a single poorly placed SM-57, yes.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 7:57 pm
by spike
joostone wrote:
liebzz wrote:I mean, this is very typical things they say before an album comes out. I am just waiting for the “some of our best work in the studio” comments to make their way out.
True, but they never sound this excited. Well, Im just excited about the process Mike describes here and thee fact that Matt is giving 110%
Not they, Mike. And he always sounds excited. If Stone does press and sounds legitimately pumped, we may have something.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:13 pm
by Jorge
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I spent most of my youth listening to bad drum sounds. It was fine.
and look at you now!
Fully capable of enjoying a well written and well played record where the drums were recorded with a single poorly placed SM-57, yes.
I can too. That doesn't mean drum sounds "don't matter," it means they're not all that matters.

And I get the feeling that the bad drum sounds we're discussing here aren't the lo-fi kind, but the sleek, plasticky, stripped of grit or character kind. Just like a different guitar tone can radically alter the impact or emotional color of a song, the nuances and sonic characteristics of a drum kit can make a huge difference. To say drum sounds don't matter is like saying the shade of color used in a painting doesn't matter. Why season your meal for enjoyment when what's important for sustenance is the caloric intake?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:16 pm
by Coach
Long live Dave A!

Bring him back for this!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:17 pm
by scrub12
The idea that they just wrote on the spot is interesting.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:18 pm
by McParadigm
Jorge wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:for the love of god can we please start banning people for pretending that drum sounds matter
you all-time worst take
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I spent most of my youth listening to bad drum sounds. It was fine.
and look at you now!
Fully capable of enjoying a well written and well played record where the drums were recorded with a single poorly placed SM-57, yes.
I can too. That doesn't mean drum sounds "don't matter," it means they're not all that matters.

And I get the feeling that the bad drum sounds we're discussing here aren't the lo-fi kind, but the sleek, plasticky, stripped of grit or character kind. Just like a different guitar tone can radically alter the impact or emotional color of a song, the nuances and sonic characteristics of a drum kit can make a huge difference. To say drum sounds don't matter is like saying the shade of color used in a painting doesn't matter. Why season your meal for enjoyment when what's important for sustenance is the caloric intake?
These crypto bots are sounding faker and faker all the time.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:21 pm
by Jorge
:?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
who crapped in McP's oatmeal

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:25 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:who crapped in McP's oatmeal
A drummer obviously

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
worried about all the positive comparisons with Brendan

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
Ms Harmless wrote:worried about all the positive comparisons with Brendan
yeah that's so weird

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 8:50 pm
by Jaeti
Ms Harmless wrote:worried about all the positive comparisons with Brendan
Yes.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 9:22 pm
by McParadigm
I mean it’s not like he said “they have the same production aesthetic.”

The guys just like to have someone in the room who will give them a bit of direction. In this case, it sounds like the emphasis was on performance rather than pop songwriting.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 12, 2023 9:29 pm
by Birds in Hell
Every bit of news about this record makes it sounds worse.

It doesn't help that everything I've heard that 'Watt' has worked on sounds awful.

I will listen to it with an open mind but my expectations are not high.

That said, I think Gigaton is as close as we're going to get to a modern Pearl Jam record made the way I'd prefer (no overbearing external involvement, the guys just meandering around and exploring their sound, relatively natural sounding) and I didn't much like that either.