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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:39 am
by epilogue
Anders wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Anders wrote:
epilogue wrote:Anders, Jorge just posted that.
I know, that's where I got the text from. I thought that was obvious. I wanted more of us to read the whole text, so posted it here.
It's unnecessary. People will read it in Jorge's post if they want. You don't need to double post it.

Will you at least put it under a spoiler tag to minimize clutter?
Fully disagree, but I will do as you wish.
:thumbsup:

I appreciate it.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:40 am
by Anders
Love Almodovar. One of the great directors.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:40 am
by epilogue
Anders wrote:Love Almodovar. One of the great directors.
Indeed

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:44 am
by Ms Harmless
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I've read the last two sentences over and over, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they mean
I think he's saying that he did not appreciate what Will Smith did, or his speech. He thinks that for those who saw it as the only real moment in the ceremony, that was only because afterwards they could be all over social media talking/posting/bragging about it.
I don't think anyone is saying it was the only moment in the ceremony, he seems hung up on personal internet distaste that has nothing to do with Smith

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:47 am
by Ms Harmless
in fact, my take is that a lot of good things happened in that ceremony, and Will Smith's slap did nothing to ruin it, which I hope is a take he would at least appreciate if not agree with

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:49 am
by Ms Harmless
it seems weird to say both "the slap didn't overshadow everything" and "it's a shame the slap overshadowed everything"

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 11:52 am
by Anders
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I've read the last two sentences over and over, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they mean
I think he's saying that he did not appreciate what Will Smith did, or his speech. He thinks that for those who saw it as the only real moment in the ceremony, that was only because afterwards they could be all over social media talking/posting/bragging about it.
I don't think anyone is saying it was the only moment in the ceremony, he seems hung up on personal internet distaste that has nothing to do with Smith
He wrote (his words, not mine): "Some claim that it was the only real moment in the ceremony"

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:06 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I've read the last two sentences over and over, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they mean
I think he's saying that he did not appreciate what Will Smith did, or his speech. He thinks that for those who saw it as the only real moment in the ceremony, that was only because afterwards they could be all over social media talking/posting/bragging about it.
I don't think anyone is saying it was the only moment in the ceremony, he seems hung up on personal internet distaste that has nothing to do with Smith
He wrote (his words, not mine): "Some claim that it was the only real moment in the ceremony"
yeah, and I wrote 1) did they, really? and 2) that's an awful lot of words about Will Smith for someone who'd rather talk about the good bits

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:08 pm
by Anders
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I've read the last two sentences over and over, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they mean
I think he's saying that he did not appreciate what Will Smith did, or his speech. He thinks that for those who saw it as the only real moment in the ceremony, that was only because afterwards they could be all over social media talking/posting/bragging about it.
I don't think anyone is saying it was the only moment in the ceremony, he seems hung up on personal internet distaste that has nothing to do with Smith
He wrote (his words, not mine): "Some claim that it was the only real moment in the ceremony"
yeah, and I wrote 1) did they, really? and 2) that's an awful lot of words about Will Smith for someone who'd rather talk about the good bits
I like the guy, but I don't know. I haven't heard anyone say that. He's probably heard people say it.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:08 pm
by Ms Harmless
but, in as much as he did highlight and draw attention to the "good bits", I agree with him; lots of good film-related things happened; I just wonder why more people aren't pissed off that Chris Rock distracted from it by insulting a woman

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:10 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Anders wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I've read the last two sentences over and over, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they mean
I think he's saying that he did not appreciate what Will Smith did, or his speech. He thinks that for those who saw it as the only real moment in the ceremony, that was only because afterwards they could be all over social media talking/posting/bragging about it.
I don't think anyone is saying it was the only moment in the ceremony, he seems hung up on personal internet distaste that has nothing to do with Smith
He wrote (his words, not mine): "Some claim that it was the only real moment in the ceremony"
yeah, and I wrote 1) did they, really? and 2) that's an awful lot of words about Will Smith for someone who'd rather talk about the good bits
I like the guy, but I don't know. I haven't heard anyone say that. He's probably heard people say it.
he might well have, in which case I'm glad most people don't mind trusting him without demanding hundreds of pages of evidence about what he's read on the internet

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:38 pm
by spike
Ms Harmless wrote:but, in as much as he did highlight and draw attention to the "good bits", I agree with him; lots of good film-related things happened; I just wonder why more people aren't pissed off that Chris Rock distracted from it by insulting a woman
because it was a joke, not an insult

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:39 pm
by Ms Harmless
spike wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:but, in as much as he did highlight and draw attention to the "good bits", I agree with him; lots of good film-related things happened; I just wonder why more people aren't pissed off that Chris Rock distracted from it by insulting a woman
because it was a joke, not an insult
stop being a fucking child

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:43 pm
by Anders
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/chri ... 235218763/

After a few additional moments of applause, Rock addressed the elephant in the room.

“How was your weekend?” he began with a knowing wink, drawing a wave of laughter. “I don’t have a bunch of shit about what happened, so if you came to hear that, I have a whole show I wrote before this weekend. I’m still kind of processing what happened. So, at some point I’ll talk about that shit. And it will be serious and funny.”

An audience member then chanted “Fuck Will Smith!” but Rock ignored the comment and began his hour-long set.

“I’m going to tell some jokes,” he said. “It’s nice to just be out.”

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
that sounds like restraint from Chris, I respect that

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:51 pm
by Jorge
It makes sense that he's still processing it. I'm sure it dredged up a lot of trauma considering what he's talked about in the past

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:53 pm
by Ms Harmless
traumatised bullies are still bullies; I'm sure all three people involved in the altercation have similar traumas to speak about

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
that said, yes, I'm glad he's thinking carefully about how to go forward

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:54 pm
by Mickey
Ms Harmless wrote:it seems weird to say both "the slap didn't overshadow everything" and "it's a shame the slap overshadowed everything"
Mostly because only the second part is correct.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 12:56 pm
by VinylGuy
THA SLAP