Red Mosquito

This week's Raw was good, and the womens(can un-naming it the divas division be apart of this revolution?) segment was fucking awesome.

Wish this promo had ended MitB. Excellent.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/an-emotional- ... s-27512539

Predictions for tonight:

Rollins/Lesnar: Rollins with a swerve ending of some kind.
Owens/Cena: Owens
Reigns/Wyatt: Wyatt
Orton/Sheamus: Sheamus
PTP/New Day: New Day

I can't believe they aren't going to have some kind of women's match after this week's Raw.

numbers wrote:Predictions for tonight:

Rollins/Lesnar: Rollins with a swerve ending of some kind.
Owens/Cena: Owens
Reigns/Wyatt: Wyatt
Orton/Sheamus: Sheamus
PTP/New Day: New Day

I can't believe they aren't going to have some kind of women's match after this week's Raw.

I very heely PPV.

What a fucking stud! Quickly becoming one of my favorite pro rasslers of all time!

He also had a tweet about how this is the anniversary of his final match in ROH. I'm gonna be heated if Cena wins this match.

numbers wrote:He also had a tweet about how this is the anniversary of his final match in ROH. I'm gonna be heated if Cena wins this match.

Yeah I saw that. Hard to believe. I have said this a lot but I usually don't care who goes over. But yes Owens needs this win. It just makes the most sense.

[quote="numbers"]He also had a tweet about how this is the anniversary of his final match in ROH. I'm gonna be heated if Cena wins this match.[/quote

Spoiler: show

U can't see me

Can't. Stop. Laughing!

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CKU87FNVEAA-GUL.mp4

Decent show last night, interested to see where they take all of this.

i feel like they were all set to give the US title to Owens then probably felt like if they did then they would lose what has been the best segment of Raw for the past few months, it really sucks though because i feel like they just ruined everything they had been building up with Owens. IMO if Owens wasnt going to win last night then it should have been because Cesaro, Rusev or both should have cost Owens the win saying that if anyone was going to beat Cena for the title it would be one of them, maybe set up a Fatal 4way for Summer Slam

I also think they called an audible because they didn't want to lose the U.S. open challenge. They could evolve into some kind of John Cena Challenge like the Angle one he debuted in, Owens should have won that feud.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Can't. Stop. Laughing!

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CKU87FNVEAA-GUL.mp4

it took me four times through to finally see it. if only he had a vince mcmahon mask on.

i wanted owens to win just like a lot of others, but with the way the matches have gone owens has been legitimized regardless of whether he has that title. it depends on where they go now with him.

pretty solid ppv all around. i was left wondering if taker is the heel here- he certainly was in the encounter. the crowd didn't go that way obviously (nor would i have), but there's certainly room for wwe to still try and go that route. if sting-taker at mania is in the cards, having taker be the heel (or heelish) makes the most sense, so having him 'turn' now works for me.

They are gonna have a hard time making Taker a heel. It will probably just be a face (Taker)/ tweener (Brock) which is fine. They have the lines so blurred with heels and faces they probably won't push who is a heel or face much. Just my 2 cents.

As for the show it was pretty good I thought.

Wyatt/Reigns was way better than I thought it would be.

Cena/Owens of course was excellent. Three of the best matches this year. Excellent chemistry. Of course I wanted Owens to win but not shocked he didn't. He should have passed out instead of tapping but oh well. I think Owens is so over that he will still remain strong. Hope I am not wrong.

Main event was good even though it was short. Kind of confused what the fuck they are going to do with Rollins now. Hopefully it's Rollins/Ambrose and Ambrose wins the title but I doubt that happens. I keep hearing Rollins/Cena rumors. If true that is fucking lame.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:I keep hearing Rollins/Cena rumors. If true that is fucking lame.

yeah, not excited about this. given other rumors of hhh/rollins, i'd rather have cena/rollins, but it's like choosing the from best of two turds.

how long has cesaro had the 'cesaro 2 swiss' jacket? love it.

AndySlash wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:I keep hearing Rollins/Cena rumors. If true that is fucking lame.

yeah, not excited about this. given other rumors of hhh/rollins, i'd rather have cena/rollins, but it's like choosing the from best of two turds.

how long has cesaro had the 'cesaro 2 swiss' jacket? love it.

Rollins and Cesaro?!!!!!

Keep dreaming, BRL.

"You can sell your soul to the devil, but your ass belongs to Brock Lesnar!" That's Shakespeare level use of the language. Wow!

So....again, been watching since December. I have a few thoughts:
1) Brock's matches are all about suplex city, but the Undertaker walks like split level homes are out of the question. How can this be a main event?
2) I guess I haven't had 10 years to get sick of Cena winning, but I don't get the hate. Yeah, he wins a lot. He's a superhero. I read he grants more make a wish wishes than any other pro athlete by a huge margin. If those kids are part of the audience, shouldn't their superhero be almost unbeatable? Also, I have heard complaints that his job now should be to put people over. That's insane. Should Tom Brady's main job be to help his backup be ready?
3) Why isn't Dean Ambrose being given anything to do?
4) Will Seth Rollins basically disappear once this title run is over? I had a buddy over for Battleground, and he told me Jack Swagger was champion once not too long ago. Holy shit!
5) I'd like to Lana.

daft twat wrote:"You can sell your soul to the devil, but your ass belongs to Brock Lesnar!" That's Shakespeare level use of the language. Wow!

So....again, been watching since December. I have a few thoughts:
1) Brock's matches are all about suplex city, but the Undertaker walks like split level homes are out of the question. How can this be a main event?
2) I guess I haven't had 10 years to get sick of Cena winning, but I don't get the hate. Yeah, he wins a lot. He's a superhero. I read he grants more make a wish wishes than any other pro athlete by a huge margin. If those kids are part of the audience, shouldn't their superhero be almost unbeatable? Also, I have heard complaints that his job now should be to put people over. That's insane. Should Tom Brady's main job be to help his backup be ready?
3) Why isn't Dean Ambrose being given anything to do?
4) Will Seth Rollins basically disappear once this title run is over? I had a buddy over for Battleground, and he told me Jack Swagger was champion once not too long ago. Holy shit!
5) I'd like to Lana.

Undertaker Vs Lesnar is a main event because it's two of the biggest names in the industry meeting up 15 months after one of the most talked about storylines in wrestling history (Lesnar ending the streak).

Cena winning doesn't do anything for Cena, but Cena putting other guys over advances those guys. The comparison to Brady doesn't make any sense because Brady is in an actual competition where performance dictates whether you play or not. Pro wrestling needs established stars to put over younger talent in order to continue making established stars...otherwise you become WCW of the late 90s and you go out of business. Cena shouldn't JUST be putting over new young talent, but he should be doing what he's been doing this year: having important, well built feuds with rising talent like Rusev (who I kind of think sucks, but whatever) and Owens. But there's no reason for Cena to be in the title picture at this point, unless he's going to put Rollins over and help make Rollins and his title more legitimate. Cena being champion is just stale at this point, it's literally the same thing as Hogan always being champion, it's old, we've seen it, we're kinda over it. The main difference between Cena and Hogan is Cena is criminally underrated as a worker whereas Hogan couldn't work himself out of a wet paper bag.

Jack Swagger sucks, Rollins is one of the best workers in the world. There is no comparison. That being said, Rollins would probably be much better off as a face in the mold of Jeff Hardy, but the kid's a star without a doubt. No one has ever watched Jack Swagger (aside from maybe Vince McMahon, which should tell you something) and said Jack Swagger's a star. Jack Swagger is JAG (just another guy). No charisma, nothing special about him other than he's the size and look that Vince jerks off to.

Ambrose is the classic kind of guy that Vince has no idea what to do with. He got over as much as he did despite some of the awful booking he's been given. He probably should be doing for the intercontinental title what Cena is doing for the US title.

daft twat wrote:"You can sell your soul to the devil, but your ass belongs to Brock Lesnar!" That's Shakespeare level use of the language. Wow!

So....again, been watching since December. I have a few thoughts:
1) Brock's matches are all about suplex city, but the Undertaker walks like split level homes are out of the question. How can this be a main event?
2) I guess I haven't had 10 years to get sick of Cena winning, but I don't get the hate. Yeah, he wins a lot. He's a superhero. I read he grants more make a wish wishes than any other pro athlete by a huge margin. If those kids are part of the audience, shouldn't their superhero be almost unbeatable? Also, I have heard complaints that his job now should be to put people over. That's insane. Should Tom Brady's main job be to help his backup be ready?
3) Why isn't Dean Ambrose being given anything to do?
4) Will Seth Rollins basically disappear once this title run is over? I had a buddy over for Battleground, and he told me Jack Swagger was champion once not too long ago. Holy shit!
5) I'd like to Lana.

This comes from Punk so take it for what it's worth, but he says that all the top guys do the make a wishes as much as Cena but WWE only publicizes the ones Cena does.