Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mecca wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Kim is Saul's ride-or-die with a conscience, his Jimminy Cricket on his path to being a real boy, if you will

all through the show she is at war with herself: she is always "I will do anything for love, but I won't do that", but before she knows it, she's done everything

it's a similar arc to Skyler White's but with a less tragic / toxic tone

Skylar was an unwilling participant though; She slid into it out of survival. Kim is actively choosing the bad choice road

that's true, actually, yes; I think her attitude eventually was, if I have to do this, I'm managing you and I'm taking a cut; but it was certainly more of a hard-won decision over a gruelling journey

I really loved Skylar and was annoyed at the "I hate Skylar" discourse

Mecca wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mecca wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Kim is Saul's ride-or-die with a conscience, his Jimminy Cricket on his path to being a real boy, if you will

all through the show she is at war with herself: she is always "I will do anything for love, but I won't do that", but before she knows it, she's done everything

it's a similar arc to Skyler White's but with a less tragic / toxic tone

Skylar was an unwilling participant though; She slid into it out of survival. Kim is actively choosing the bad choice road

that's true, actually, yes; I think her attitude eventually was, if I have to do this, I'm managing you and I'm taking a cut; but it was certainly more of a hard-won decision over a gruelling journey

I really loved Skylar and was annoyed at the "I hate Skylar" discourse

I think that’s a side effect of writing Walt as an effective anti-hero; you knew he was a bad person, yet rooted for him

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Were people still rooting for Walt past season 3?

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Now that I think about, we’ve hashed this out before… Anyway, I was team Schuyler once Walt poisoned Jesse’s girlfriend’s kid. And I never rooted for Jesse, not once.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Norris wrote:Jesse was born into poverty?

tragabigzanda wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:I think they did quite well at the nuance where, yes, Jesse was a POS, but he was still manipulated and exploited by the bigger and more experienced POS (Walt -- I don't mean experienced in crime but certainly experienced in manipulation and abuse); also, Jesse was born into poverty which pushed him into crime, Walter was a bored rich suburbian (the angle that America requires people to spend inhumane amounts on healthcare was a good plot device but didn't make me sympathise with him, I believe he could've found the money somewhere, I don't believe that so much of Jesse)

Man I loved when Walt puts the dollar amount on how much he needs to make in the game before he quits. His decision to keep going was the real heel turn.