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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 4:56 pm
by McParadigm
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Breitbart's going after Priebus.
Bannon solidifying even more power.
Or retribution. Word has been that Pence and Priebus were the most vocal in pushing for Flynn to ho.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:10 pm
by McParadigm
Hill: Chairman: House intel panel won’t investigate Flynn, will probe leaks

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/31942 ... robe-leaks

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:13 pm
by bune
Bi_3 wrote:
wease wrote:Anyone who thought anything would happen with Flynn hasn't been paying attention.
Probably splitting hairs but he wasn't fired - he resigned.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:17 pm
by McParadigm
CNN: The Senate's second-ranking Republican and other GOP senators are calling for an investigation into connections between President Donald Trump and Russia, and want former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to testify.

Sen. John Cornyn, who has called for an investigation into Trump's tie to Russia before Flynn resigned, told reporters Tuesday that the Senate standing committees with oversight of intelligence need to investigate Flynn. Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also told KTRS radio he wanted to speak with Flynn.
Blunt told KTRS radio that an investigation "needs" to happen.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:17 pm
by McParadigm
This is just going to be one of those days.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:26 pm
by Strat
No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:28 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?
Er, no. Of course not.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:28 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Strat wrote:No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?
IMHO, absolutely zero chance he isn't involved.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:29 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?
Ship is sinking. Ship is sinking. There's a leak there's a leak in the boiler room.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:30 pm
by Strat
meatwad wrote:
Strat wrote:No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?
IMHO, absolutely zero chance he isn't involved.
Yea, probably. Kind of feels more like everyone around him were taking advantage of the madness and his idiocy/inexperience. I dont know.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:31 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:
Strat wrote:No chance trump isn't involved with this shit, right?
Ship is sinking. Ship is sinking. There's a leak there's a leak in the boiler room.
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:37 pm
by McParadigm
Killers, thieves and Russians

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:38 pm
by Strat
Officials: Russian cruise missile, deployed secretly, violates treaty
3 MINUTES AGO
The new Russian missile deployment presents a major challenge for President Trump, who has vowed to improve relations with Russia and to pursue future arms accords.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 5:47 pm
by Strat
https://www.facebook.com/MorningJoe/vid ... o_guests=0

100% fact and you wil l not deny and the president will not be questioned.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:08 pm
by digster
Bi_3 wrote:
digster wrote:I'm not sure it's really opinion. The Trump administration knew about that Flynn had mischaracterized the call since last month. He stayed in the position until yesterday. They expressed support for him until basically yesterday afternoon. They weren't going to do anything about it until public pressure made that no longer an option. If they were going to do something about it, they would have done it when they found out he had lied about the call.
Or the FBI was still investigating. Or waiting for an intelligence briefing on why the spooks were allowed to listen in on an American citizen's call (FISA warrant?) and what else might be there. Or any of 1 million other things. No one here has any idea what is going on behind those doors. My point is not that Flynn deserves the benefit of the doubt, he should never have been nominated and god help us if Pertraeus is the replacement, but this thread is reaching FreePer levels of rapidly spit internet rumors and see what sticks, so maybe let's try and keep the primary sourced facts separate from what we wish they were.
Eh, maybe. I'd say that arguing that the administration was acting on the merits when they knew about the mischaracterization for weeks and only canned Flynn after all the details got leaked to the public is giving them a fairly massive benefit of the doubt. I can't really blame anyone if they're not willing to do the same, given this admin's awfully loose relationship with honesty thus far.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:30 pm
by Strat
There have been 45 executive orders or presidential memoranda signed, which may seem like a lot but lags President Barack Obama’s pace. More crucially, with the notable exception of the travel ban, almost none of these orders have mandated much action or clear change of current regulations. So far, Trump has behaved exactly like he has throughout his previous career: He has generated intense attention and sold himself as a man of action while doing little other than promote an image of himself as someone who gets things done.
Trump poses a challenge to decades of tradition and precedent. He is masterful as conflating words and actions in a way that enrages and alarms his opponents and exhilarates and excites his supporters. It’s more important than ever to distinguish what is from what isn’t. Understanding the difference between what this president says and what he does is one of the only things that will keep our public debate from plunging ever deeper into the hall of mirrors.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ing-214775

Good article with some perspective.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:40 pm
by McParadigm
At first glance, reporting on this seems oddly limited to mostly right wing media.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:44 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:
I dont understand the world

“It’s not a huge concern, but we are keeping our eyes on it,” one official said.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:45 pm
by Strat
We need a new Top Gun so badly.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 14, 2017 6:46 pm
by dimejinky99
Hang on I thought the Russians were 'pals' with trump now.

Any chance at all this doesn't escalate quickly?